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  The Truth Changes: Watchtower of July 15, 2013

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

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  Listener

  Great work Doug.

  You made this statement

  "The GB has now expanded the "domestics" to include the "great crowd" class. This further diminishes any uniqueness of those claiming to be of the anointed (those who plan to rule earth from the government in heaven). This is the only mention of the "great crowd" in this magazine. They do not appear in the diagrams at pages 4-5 or 10-11. "

  The moving of the other sheep from being identified as part of Christ's belongings to now being part of the domestics within the household is a big change but you've pointed out that they only mention them once in this article. It would seem that they are going to make future changes in their understanding here as well.
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  The Truth Changes: Watchtower of July 15, 2013

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

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  Listener

  Thanks Doug, you've put a lot of work into that, I'm looking forward to reading it.
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  I have just been disinvited to my brother's wedding - Thanks AAWA!

  by Sic Semper Tyrannis in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i am an inactive jw.

  i havent been on this forum for a few months and have been lurking in others.

  i have met a few people in real life and online, both on this forum and on others.

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  Listener

  Venetian said -

  "A number of posters on here need to climb off the AAWA-wrecker ball bandwagon (and that includes you simon) and think rationally"

  You're now claiming Simon is on the AAWA-wrecker ball bandwagon. You're just stirring the pot and it's not nice. Simon is trying to do the right thing here and he has done an excellant job. How about showing some respect for him? This is his forum!!!!!
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  New JWStruggle Video - "INDEPENDENCE- Subtle Trap of Satan?"

  by RayPublisher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  yes the wt has been warning us about this evil, insidious way of thinking for many years.

  it has been described as a form of haughtiness, a form of pride, a subtle form of satanic propaganda.

  oh my that sounds pretty scary... .

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  Listener

  Thanks for the video and the analysis of bible versus the org uses to support their idea of dependence on them.

  Your discussion about your daughter was sweet but does this mean that she equates you to Forest Gump? Maybe you should give her a box of chocolates on her next birthday.
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  I have just been disinvited to my brother's wedding - Thanks AAWA!

  by Sic Semper Tyrannis in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i am an inactive jw.

  i havent been on this forum for a few months and have been lurking in others.

  i have met a few people in real life and online, both on this forum and on others.

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  Listener

  That is an unfair judgement His Excellency. Higher education is not the be all and end all in qualifying someone to take on a leadership position.

  I've seen many educated people display egotism, selfish ambition and arrogance and all the more so because they feel their higher education gives them the right to act that way.]
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  AAWA has caused divisions and has lost the opportunity to be effective

  by NoRegrets in

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  2. scandals

  here's the thing,.

  the whole aawa idea had noble ideas behind it, but the ship has sailed and the movement needs to go back to the drawing board.

  period.

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  Listener

  You're not doing much good for the cause Tylinbrando. You're really going over the top and I for one don't like extremism.

  Just in your last post alone you say -

  "...while all the AAWA Angels run around rescuing the world, ... other board members. All very out and recognizable. All extremely talented also....

  ....watch them march onto the battle field..." Really, all your board members are not just talented but they are extremely talented. But they're all 'out there and recognizable', you'll find that a team this does not make, rather ego's and personal ambition will get in the way. Yep with extremism like this I'll do as you suggest - "Why not grab your popcorn to sit back and watch the show?"
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  AAWA has caused divisions and has lost the opportunity to be effective

  by NoRegrets in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  here's the thing,.

  the whole aawa idea had noble ideas behind it, but the ship has sailed and the movement needs to go back to the drawing board.

  period.

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  Listener

  Cedar's is now in charge over a lot of people, time will tell how many remain.

  He's already lost his Vice President and they are only just up and running.
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  The New Diary of Winston Smith

  by WinstonSmith in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  we had to go off grid for a time, time and half a time as we thought we had been outed.

  fortunately it was a false alarm, but it was a stressful time.

  i asked for my original diary thread to be deleted in case there could be anything on there to identlfy mrs smith and i. i am always very careful when posting, and am sure there was nothing on there, but felt it best to have it removed in order to be as cautious as a dove.

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  Listener

  Numbers, stats, reports and forms seems to have overshadowed their real responsibilities. Maybe their heart isn't really in it anymore.
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  How to give to Jehovah

  by Satanus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  back in the good old days, when god actually spoke to his great warriors, generally stuff they gave to their god was offered up as burnt offerings.

  they burned thousands of cattle, goats, sheep, lots of cities and even a few people.

  back then, jay hoover got off on the smells of bbqing meat and just generally burning stuff.

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  Listener

  Do credit cards count?
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  Good time for R&F to preemptively question GB validity

  by irondork in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  with the new light in the july 15 watchtower, now might be the perfect time for rank and file members to question wether or not the big boys are who they say they are.

  in light of the fact that the men who claim to be the sole channel of communication for all mankind could not even grasp their own identity for the last 100 years, wouldn't now be a good time to turn the tables on the elders who are so quick to drag a questioning dub to the back room and demand loyalty to the governing body?.

  wouldn't now be a good time to put the july 15 watchtower in the middle of the table and ask to see the credentials on these men without fear of being suspected of apostacy?

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  Listener

  It is a time for JWs to prove their loyalty to the GB and prove that they accept any rubbish they dish up.