This puts a whole different perspective on the need to obey the Governing Body because each one of those guys will be in heaven destroying those who don't obey them now, on judgement day.
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Governing Body Will Get to Kill Worldly People at Armageddon! Gods Kingdom Rules Quote
by lostnotfound inso scanning through the gods kingdom rules i found this gem on page 228.. .
"in heaven, the 144,000 corulers with christ will recieve authority to share with jesus in weilding an "iron rod" of destruction against all enemies of gods kingdom.
( rev 2 26,27) then, together with powerful angels, the resurrected anointed ones will follow christ, the warrior king, as he sets out to confront the "vast army" of enemies that is closing in on its prey - jehovahs people.".
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NOT learning from mistakes is a sign of STUPIDITY (psst GB--are you listening?)
by Terry in1873 [six thousand years of man's existence ends in a.d. 1873] {wr apr 1880 88} .
1873 "here we furnish the evidence that from the creation of adam to a.d. 1873 was six thousand years.
and though the bible contains no direct statement that the seventh thousand will be the epoch of christ's reign, the great sabbath day of restitution to the world, yet the venerable tradition is not without reasonable foundation.. if, then, the seventh thousand-year period of earth's history be an epoch specially noted as the period of christ's reign, we shall, by showing that it began in a.d. 1873, be proving that we are already in it.
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I doubt it was stupidity that caused them to make the same error. Rehashing the 6,000 year idea got them many results that they were seeking. This included increased hours in field service, higher numbers being recruited and an expectation that drove the Witnesses on. They also sold many more books and magazines than they otherwise would have done.
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Full-time service is MORE IMPORTANT than taking care of elderly parents!!! It says so in the Sept 2014 WT
by EndofMysteries inparagraph 20 out of the article in the sept 2014 study wt about fulltime service says this.... .
"full-time servants age, and so do their parents.
when parents are witnesses, likely their fondest wish is for their children to stay in their assignments.
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It was only 6 months ago that this issue was dealt with in a study article
Watchtower 2014 3/15
Full-time servants whose theocratic assignments have taken them far from home may face particularly difficult decisions. Those serving as Bethelites, missionaries, and traveling overseers all view their assignment as precious, as a blessing from Jehovah. Still, if their parents get sick, the first reaction might be, ‘We need to leave our assignment and return home to look after our parents.’ Yet, it would be wise to consider prayerfully whether that is what the parents really need or desire. No one should hastily give up service privileges, and it may not always be necessary. Could the health issue be temporary, one with which some in the parents’ congregation would be happy to help?—Prov. 21:5.
11 Consider, for example, the case of two fleshly brothers who served far from home. One was a missionary in South America, the other worked at world headquarters, in Brooklyn, New York. The brothers’ elderly parents needed help. The sons and their wives visited the parents in the Far East to see what help could best be provided and how. In time, the couple in South America were weighing leaving their assignment to return home. Then they received a telephone call from the coordinator of the body of elders in the parents’ congregation. Those elders had discussed the situation and wanted the missionaries to continue in their assignment as long as possible. The elders appreciated this couple’s service and were determined to do all they could to help them care for their parents. All in the family appreciated the loving concern.
12 Whatever strategy a Christian family adopts to care for the needs of elderly parents, all concerned will certainly want to make sure that it reflects well on God’s name. Never would we want to be like the religious leaders in Jesus’ day. (Matt. 15:3-6) We want our decisions to honor God and the congregation.—2 Cor. 6:3.
THE CONGREGATION’S RESPONSIBILITY
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15 In some lands, governmental authorities provide pensions, welfare programs, and home-care attendants for senior citizens. (Rom. 13:6) Elsewhere, no such organized services exist. Hence, how much physical assistance relatives and the congregation need to provide for older brothers and sisters varies from situation to situation. If believing children live far from their parents, it may affect how much help the children reasonably are in a position to provide. The children would do well to communicate freely with the elders of their parents’ congregation to make sure that all understand the family’s circumstances. For instance, the elders may be able to help out by assisting the parents to learn about and benefit from governmental or social programs locally. They may also observe situations—such as unopened bills or mismanaged medication—that they can bring to the attention of adult children. Such well-motivated and kind interchanges of information can prevent a situation from getting worse and may well lead to practical solutions. Clearly, on-the-spot helpers and advisers, who effectively act as the children’s “eyes,” may alleviate the worries of a family.
16 Out of affection for beloved older ones, some Christians have volunteered their time and energy to meet whatever needs they reasonably can. They make it a point to show extra interest in older members of the congregation. Some volunteers divide the tasks with others in the congregation and care for older ones on a rotation basis. While realizing that their own circumstances do not allow them to engage in the full-time ministry, they are happy to assist the children to remain in their chosen careers as long as possible. What an excellent spirit such brothers show! Of course, their generosity does not relieve children of the responsibility to do what they can for their parents.
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Waiting on jehovah ... and the Governing Body
by Focus in.
focus.
("i've already disfellowshipped the governing body" class).
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You've blanked out Raymond Franz.
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Sept 2014 WT study highlights ("Love all the work, including sweeping the floor")
by EndofMysteries indon't mind the corrections i made with some of the quotes, the wt obviously doesn't proofread for accuracy.
under the article about "are you convinced you have the truth" they say this about disfellowshippings...... "thus, during the modern-day history of jehovahs witnesses, relatively few many have had to be been expelled from the christian fellowship because they would not conform to gods the governing body's standards.
this is a good one!....under an article about reaching out, (since they need to replace all those waking up, they give some tips on how to get promoted), my favorite quote..... "love all the work you are given to do in the congregation, including sweeping the floor.".
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Thanks EOM I was going to compare them myself because you can't get more simplified that the Study Edition.
This is the reason they gave for producing the simplified version
The simplified edition was designed to help those who attend English congregation meetings at the Kingdom Hall but who do not speak English as their mother tongue
It doesn't make any sense as to why they wouldn't want non English speaking Brothers reaching out for jobs such as floor sweeping.
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Sept 2014 WT study highlights ("Love all the work, including sweeping the floor")
by EndofMysteries indon't mind the corrections i made with some of the quotes, the wt obviously doesn't proofread for accuracy.
under the article about "are you convinced you have the truth" they say this about disfellowshippings...... "thus, during the modern-day history of jehovahs witnesses, relatively few many have had to be been expelled from the christian fellowship because they would not conform to gods the governing body's standards.
this is a good one!....under an article about reaching out, (since they need to replace all those waking up, they give some tips on how to get promoted), my favorite quote..... "love all the work you are given to do in the congregation, including sweeping the floor.".
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You don't need to go back further than twelve months to find everything in this magazine repeated.
There must be some real problems in the congregations with such a need to keep repeating specific directions.
I was mistaken for a moment in thinking that I was reading the simplified version.
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"God-breathed Scriptures"
by Doug Mason inmy study responds to the articles inspiration and canon in the book, insight on the scriptures.
there can be few topics of more significance, regardless of ones attitude to the bible.. http://www.jwstudies.com/god-breathed_scriptures.pdf .
doug.
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Keeping for another time. That's a lot of work Doug and it looks interesting, thanks.
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BBC Article on Train Station Witnessing
by scotinsw inhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-28166192.
can't make link clickable!.
i pass them in london on a daily basis at one of mainline train stations in the city and the only people i've seen talking to them are lost tourists (looking for directions).
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If they really wanted to catch the attention of passerby's they would have show bags with mags, pamphlets, a book, a JW org badge, oh and a pen and small notepad. Throwing in a survival pack might grab some attention as well.
They just aren't sincere. :)
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At RC, Splane says 1000+ new KH's needed, last year only "60" new one's built.
by oppostate inso there are now regular, full time "construction servants" and their help is much needed along with regional rbc volunteers, who better get working because over a thousand kh's are needed and last year only sixty were built by the u.s. branch.
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splane also said that just with the new baptized this weekend all over the u.s. we had one whone new circuit, so we better put more work into building needed kingdom halls..
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Nonjwspouse, that is exactly what happened to a congregation in Australia. It was just over a year ago. They were told they needed a bigger hall because it couldn't hold all the people attending the Memorial.
This was in an area that had low JW numbers originally because it was in a quiet area. It wasn't until about 20 years ago that they had enough members able to put the money together to build their own hall. Prior to that they were renting an old hall owned by another religion. It had no heating or air conditioning, no carpeting and hard wooden benches.
The hall was built in a very desireable location and sold for a lot of money, there would have been more than enough to build a hall twice the size on another plot of land in the area.
Now the members have to travel 20kms further and attend meetings at a more unsuitable time to fit in with the other congregations using the same hall.
Not everyone agreed to the sale, I know of at least one person that voted against it. It just didn't make sense.
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At RC, Splane says 1000+ new KH's needed, last year only "60" new one's built.
by oppostate inso there are now regular, full time "construction servants" and their help is much needed along with regional rbc volunteers, who better get working because over a thousand kh's are needed and last year only sixty were built by the u.s. branch.
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splane also said that just with the new baptized this weekend all over the u.s. we had one whone new circuit, so we better put more work into building needed kingdom halls..
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I wonder how many were sold in the same time and never been replaced.