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  NOT on JW.org: Huffington Post interview with Director of new movie about Jehovahs' Witnesses and the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.

  by Balaamsass2 in

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  danielle tumminio become a fan .

  episcopal priest, life coach, and author of 'god and harry potter at yale'.

  email.

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  It will be released on Xmas day - there will be plenty of JWs who have nothing better to do that day.
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  DINOSAURS - What do Jehovah's Witnesses Believe?

  by Bloody Hotdogs! in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as part of my deconversion catharsis, i have been building a(nother) website to highlight some of the more ridiculous jw beliefs.

  im a looong way from done, but i wanted some early feedback on one article: dinosaurs.

  http://www.jwbeliefs.com/dinosaurs/.

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  There is this article that talks about 'aeons' = an indefinite period.

  W 2011 2/15

  The Climax of Earthly Creation

  13 After aeons had passed and God had produced innumerable animate and inanimate works, the earth was no longer “formless and waste.” Yet, Jehovah had not finished using his spirit for creative purposes. He was about to produce his highest earthly creation. Toward the end of the sixth creative day, God created man. How did Jehovah do so? By using his holy spirit and the elements of the earth.—Gen. 2:7.
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  The expression 'need greaters'. Anyone else heard this?

  by jambon1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my wife gets emails from someone who is serving in another country.. he keeps on referring to brothers/sisters who are 'need greaters'.. if they are actually using this expression then i have to say that it is the stupidest 'title' that they have ever dreamed up.

  so full of their own self importance.. need greaters?..............

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  I'm in Western Australia, the weather is generally pleasant, although hot and dry in Summer. The landscape is not as pretty as the East Coast but nice enough. Queensland is an attractive place and people there seem to be much more carefree.
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  The expression 'need greaters'. Anyone else heard this?

  by jambon1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my wife gets emails from someone who is serving in another country.. he keeps on referring to brothers/sisters who are 'need greaters'.. if they are actually using this expression then i have to say that it is the stupidest 'title' that they have ever dreamed up.

  so full of their own self importance.. need greaters?..............

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  Having lived in the southern State of Victoria, I wouldn't say greed was the motivation. The weather is pretty awful, even Tasmania is better.
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  Dear Believer ........ (great video to possible evoke thought in a non brain dead DUB)

  by tresdecu in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i really liked this....very simple thoughts that should make everyone think, especially those that believe in a diety.

  (...as i...think i do...hmmmm, wait).

  spend the 10 min to watch this.

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  Listener

  Lovely video and some important questions are asked.

  He makes the statement that there is greater awe in reality than there is in fantasy. Believing in a higher being is not fantasy but anyway I prefer this more profound statement'

  Curiosity has its own reason for existence. One cannot help but be in awe when one contemplates the mysteries of eternity, of life, of the marvelous structure

  of reality. It is enough if one tries merely to comprehend a little of this mystery each day." - Albert Einstein
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  CAN WE SOLVE THE MYSTERY of why Watchtower doctrines changed when they changed?

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if a person gives a police report of a traumatic event, but later changes their facts during cross-examination, these changes are used to impeach the honesty of the witness.. this impeachment flows from a logical understanding facts must match reality without contradiction.. lets examine the history of the watchtower corporations leaders with a view to the harmony of.

  true teaching over a period of years from 1879-1942.. "even though christmas is not the real anniversary of our lord's birth, but more properly the annunciation day or the date of his human begetting (luke 1:28), nevertheless, since the celebration of our lord's birth is not a matter of divine appointment or injunction, but merely a tribute of respect to him, it is not necessary for us to quibble particularly about the date.

  we may as well join with the civilized world in celebrating the grand event on the day which the majority celebrate - "christmas day.

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  Listener

  Alexander Hislop and his book 'The two Babylons' are quoted 47 times in the WT library. Hislops motive was to discredit the Catholics and mentioned numerous practices of theirs as being from pagan origin. He had his own set of weird and whacky ideas, which were not factual.

  It would seem that the WTBTS in it's own motive of discrediting the Catholic religion picked up on this book and ran with his ideas. It fitted their needs of pointing at other religions and demonstrating that they were still pagan. Of course, that required ridding their own organization of those pagan practices that they they would choose to condem.

  The WTBTS last quoted Hislop in 1985.

  Hislop's writings have been discredited.

  Hislop believed the Protestant religion was the true religion and he also believed in the Trinity. Having researched his writings the WTBTS would have known this. So why would they even quote someone whom, according to their own beliefs, was lying? Surely if the WTBTS has any credibility they would not quote from a person who's basic doctrines were a lie and from Satan, how could they even put trust in anything he was saying? Yet they continued to quote him time after time.
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  How would you respond to this defense made on behalf of The Watchtower's Child Abuse lawsuits?

  by adjusted knowledge in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  details of the society's child abuse policies have been published in jehovah's witnesses' publications, although more specific guidelines are only made available to elders, or on request.

  press releases issued by the watch tower society's office of public information confirm that if a person accused of molestation repeatedly denies the charges of his victim, and there is no other witness to the incident, "the elders cannot take action within the congregation at that time", but would report to authorities if required by local laws.

  our families jehovahs witnesses and child protection.

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  Have they put their foot in their mouth with this statement ?

  They won't be using their handling of pedo cases as an example to prove that they are the one true chanel and they cannot claim that they have been guided by God's holy spirit in this matter.
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  How would you respond to this defense made on behalf of The Watchtower's Child Abuse lawsuits?

  by adjusted knowledge in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  details of the society's child abuse policies have been published in jehovah's witnesses' publications, although more specific guidelines are only made available to elders, or on request.

  press releases issued by the watch tower society's office of public information confirm that if a person accused of molestation repeatedly denies the charges of his victim, and there is no other witness to the incident, "the elders cannot take action within the congregation at that time", but would report to authorities if required by local laws.

  our families jehovahs witnesses and child protection.

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  the elders receive proper legal direction to ensure that they comply with the law. Additionally, the victim may wish to report the matter to the authorities, and it is his or her absolute right to do so.

  They say that they take these issues very seriously. Then why do they provide access to the legal department to elders only? What actual support do they give members who want to report the issue to authorities? Although they have changed their actions by not hindering the member to go to the police they are doing nothing to actively support the member, whereas they are actively helping the elders in dealing with the matter even if it is to a limited extent. These are members that have come to them to help deal with the matter, I doubt any JW would expect that the elders dealt with the matter on a spiritual basis only but they don't realize that they are not getting any practical help whatsoever.
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  Wt today and funding special pioneers

  by Daisychaindream in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  does anyone else feel like it was just a way to beg for donations!!!.

  the society gives them a minimal wage to preach 130 hours so we should be the ones sending them money and good and clothes.

  it's not like they help the community they go to, i've known missionaries when i was younger who were in deepest darkest soith america in villages with no water, instead of passing in skills and worthwhile tools they just study then go home.

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  Listener

  Sorry to hear that. At least they were outside the hall. The saying 'a fool and his money are soon parted' comes to mind.
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  The embarrassing history of the misnomer called JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the scriptures portray a person named stephen who is termed the first "martyr.

  " the greek word means "witness.".

  ( greek : , martys , "witness"; stem -, martyr- ).

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  Listener

  Great post.