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Who Can Name The First F&DS Members?

by Vanderhoven7 in

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wts board of directors 1918/1919.

Listener

Jesus did not say. This is what the GB say.W 13 7/15

12 When did Jesus appoint the faithful slave over his domestics? To answer that, we need to go back to 1914—the beginning of the harvest season. As we learned earlier, at that time many groups claimed to be Christian. From which group would Jesus select and appoint the faithful slave? That question was answered after he and his Father came and inspected the temple, or spiritual arrangement for worship, from 1914 to the early part of 1919.* (Mal. 3:1) They were pleased with a small band of loyal Bible Students who showed that their heart was with Jehovah and his Word. Of course, they needed some cleansing, but they humbly responded during a brief period of testing and refining. (Mal. 3:2-4) Those faithful Bible Students were true Christian wheat. In 1919, a time of spiritual revival, Jesus selected capable anointed brothers from among them to be the faithful and discreet slave and appointed them over his domestics."

They claim that he selected capable anointed brothers from amongst a small band of loyal bible students. Their answer is very unclear but they were male and it was only a small number, more than one person.

It is a good question to ask any JW, they will not be able to answer it without being just as obscure. If they cannot be identified then there cannot be any basis for them claiming that they know who was appointed as the fds, or that they actually were.

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David Splane address bethelites

by rosesinbloom in

i did not write this piece.

i enjoyed the simple and understandable reasoning.

hope some of you enjoy it too.

Listener

Thanks for the links. It provided the link to Splane's morning worship talk.

The GB still believe that there were anointed on earth throughout the last 1900 years but if they were not qualified to provide spiritual food then how did they become anointed? This means that during those 1900 years the anointed did not need to know bible truths, including the requirement to preach to others. On what basis did God select them in order to anoint them?

Surely, if those individuals were anointed by God during this period of time without the need to receive or pass on spiritual food or the need to be part of an earthly organization (or God's earthly organization) then there is no such requirement today for one to be selected to be anointed.

By giving this speech Splane is including Charles T Russel as being disqualified to be appointed as the FDS.

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David Splane address bethelites

by rosesinbloom in

i did not write this piece.

i enjoyed the simple and understandable reasoning.

hope some of you enjoy it too.

Listener

Rose in Bloom, could you please provide a link or source reference as the article refers to further discussions.

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Pioneers inviting to regional convention

by InquiryMan in

interestingly, jws in norway actually do invite people to attend convention in stockholm, even from the city of bod, some 1176 km away (driving distance 14 h 30 m away).. .

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Listener

It's not surprising, there are JWs all around the World.

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Malawi CRAP in April 15 2015 Watchtower

by Marvin Shilmer in

jw
friends

near the top of page 15 in the april 15, 2015 watchtower shows a photo of the malawi congress party card made the center of jws being severely persecuted in malawi in the 60s, 70s and 80s.

the lie is furthered in this watchtower article is that the whole issue was over jws refusing to involve themselves in politics.

readers who want to know the whole story of what caused this persecution are invited to consider evidence in the following article presentations: .

Listener

Well done Marvin, great blog. Do you get the feeling that you are being monitored by Bethel given the responses posted?

One comment was this

Anonymous said...

a very very sad situation . what is our saving grace is that each of us alone stand before the almighty god each of us have answer for misleading one another . at the end of the day whatever our religion we are all indivdually judged . are any of us truly free of anything ? we live in a blame culture . while we look and judge others thats how we ourselves will be judged . i heard a quote by jonathan swift we have enough knowledge to hate but not enough to love . how true . those men you talk about s.tand before god and so do i so on that basis i wont be making a comment . im going now to spread a bit of love .hee i hope you know where im going with this . i need all the mercy i can get

It's a thoughtful post, other than he is suggesting that you (Marvin) shouldn/t be judging others but he's missing a few issues here. Firstly, it's not just men (JW leaders) that are the problem, it is the position and power that they hold. They imposed their conscience and ideas on hundreds of followers, by their power they were enforcing them to be obedient to them. This was done under the guise of religion and under the JW banner. It's not about pointing fingers at a bunch of individuals but at a religion If a person is to be under subjection to a religion it is important that they are aware as to how that religion operates. This brings me to the second issue.

We will be judged individually and that also means that if we choose to join a religion we are blindly supporting all the values and ideas that the religion professes. This is particularly so if we are aware of their wrongdoing and continue to support them. To date the WTBTS has not apologized for their actions or admitted that they were wrong. Personally I would not like to be in the position of knowing about the Malawi situation and continuing in service with them.

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Disfellowshipping Image

by naazira in

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friends

this photo can be found in the april 15 , study edition article titled:.

why disfellowshipping is a loving provision.

just by looking at this image we can see how quickly the barrier between the congregation and former member is put up, after the announcement that this sister is no longer one of jehovah's witneses.

Listener

There are two cross signs in the door behind the lady and the door, even though it is open, does not resemble the other half of the door whatsoever.

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Recent Finds: How SPIRITISM is still attached to the 1914 doctrine

by Gilgamesh in

recent finds: how spiritism is still attached to the 1914 doctrine http://wp.me/p4cpzs-fr.

for the ad1914.com site, we'll be adding a section called "recent finds.

" i would like to continue adding some interesting bits and pieces from various forums, sites, blogs that are especially related to the 1914 doctrine.

Listener

In the 2007 Resurrection article they are declaring that divine truth is revealed to them but they are not sure how and think it may be through resurrected persons. At one time they claimed their knowledge was through careful study of the bible but this article makes the claim that some revelations are not limited to interpreting the bible.

If they are not sure how new information is revealed to them, or by whom, then they cannot be certain that they are being fed wrong information and accept it no matter from what source it comes from.

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Cant we put financial pressure on the Borg?

by 1tMakesNoSence in

why dont everyone just start taking publications, asking for more and just say you don't have any money.

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if everyone does this, can't we put some significant financial pressure on the borg?.

Listener

They already hide the bibles away, or have none available at the carts.

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Statue of Marsyas died on a stake?

by enigma1863 in

so jws have been spreading this picture around claiming it supports the roman torture stake belief.

this is the statue of marsyas the satyr, a greek mythical creature.

he lost a challenge to apollo and was flayed.

Listener

Half banana, I'm wondering if I should use the dislike button or the flag on your post.

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where in london can i talk to someone/get help

by chrism in

jw
friends

hi my name is chris.

im in a not good way and need to know where in london i can talk to someone/get help?

im currently sleeping rough in london.

Listener

You can get bus ticket from london to Calais France for about 30£ it should be less than 30£ the rest of the way.

Ask whoever is giving you the money to buy the tickets instead.

Gambling is a problem in many countries.