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Why using Jehovah for God's name is as good as using Yahweh

by oppostate in

in another thread i wrote some notes about why using jehovah in english is as good as using yahweh.

i'm starting a discussion on this topic because it sounds quite ignorant to hear people talk of the monk who started using it in latin without really understanding why the monk did so.. the spanish dominican monk, raymundus martini, in 1270, didn't get hoodwinked by an old jewish superstition about pronouncing the divine name with the vowel points of another word.. 1. first the vowel points of adonay and jehovah cannot be the same for grammatical reasons.

you just can't use the same vowel points because some vowels aren't paired with some consonants in pronouncing hebrew words.

Listener

Bonsai makes some good comments and had me thinking about the scripture that was imbedded upon our minds in the 70s - The nations shall have to know that I am Jehovah. There was even a book about this but it led me to this thread and a comment by a guy called Jason Dulle

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/187201/nations-shall-know-that-am-jehovah-how-online?page=1

I loved his conclusion

<<In conclusion, although it is not necessarily wrong to say God’s name as Jehovah, by no means can it be claimed that Jehovah is the name of God that has only been restored to us in these recent times. At best Jehovah can only be claimed to be an acceptable way of pronouncing God’s name in the English language, and at worst it could be said to be a phonetic corruption of God’s name. The probable pronunciation of God’s revealed name is Yahweh.">>

He has a good point, you can't claim to restore something unless you know what existed originally, without having to make guesses or invent it.

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Special assembly Belgium

by InquiryMan in

special assembly was attended by 30,000 and 173 was baptized.. see video-footage given by english language belgian web site.. (interestingly, the press spokesman was a sister).. http://deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws.english.

Listener

>>04/07/15 - Some 30,000 members of Jehova's Witnesses are attending a world congress at Flanders Expo in Ghent. The Bible and a clear set of rules are key factors for the members, which are an estimated 25,000 in Belgium. The congress in Belgium includes immersion baptism sessions, singing, praying and also Bible courses in 13 languages. <<

A clear set of rules are key factors for the members - as set out in the secret shepherding the flock book.

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Just found out my older brother has passed away

by stuckinarut2 in

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i have just found out that my brother (who was one of a bunch that shared this login) has died.. he and his wife were living in another country where they once pioneered.

i didn't see him that often.. such an empty feeling.....

Listener

That's very sad Stuckinarut. He must have been relatively young.

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Book cover for Kingdom Maladies

by punkofnice in

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righto poppickers.

as some of you know, i have been putting together a book of interviews and humour.

it is designed (i hope), soften the blow for those inside the wbt$ who want to escape and also prove to those that have left that they are not alone.. anyway.

Listener

I love that last one Punkofnice but I'm a bit of the conservative type sometimes. You clearly state what it is about. You may want to capitalize witnesses to Witnesses, unless it's deliberate.

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Article: Family poisoned by disgruntled Jehovah’s Witness Brett Darren Mardon sues him for $100,000 over malicious, spiteful crime

by AndersonsInfo in

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don't know if this article was posted here recently.

but be mindful, if you're an elder, it could be dangerous to disfellowship someone.. the andersons.

perth - western australia , june 5, 2015. http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/national/family-poisoned-by-disgruntled-jehovahs-witness-brett-darren-mardon-sues-him-for-100000-over-malicious-spiteful-crime/story-fnii5yv8-1227385223087?sv=9dc7c522db1e83c6f7c6990365090aec.

Listener

I've just seen this story. If true, it is very sad that this ex JW became criminal in his activities.

The guy has been charged, found guilty and is awaiting sentence.. Here's a link that gives some background information on the guy and what led him to his actions

http://jwdivorces.bravehost.com/familicide.html

It's not excusable but shows what can happen to a persons mental capacity when dealing with disfellowshipping and attempting reinstatement that drags on for months on end. Where it also involves ones friends, wife and children.

The elder involved turns around and sues the guy. I find it very hard to believe that this is what a leader in a so called Christian congregation does and believes it is the the best way to deal with it. So many times we have heard the GB say that people are becoming more litigious because they are wordly and they are greedy.

Also shocking is the way the elders became involved in his marriage and were causing a barrier between the guy and his wife.

I've heard rumours that in recent times, elders here in Australia have been told to stay out of marriage problems and not to give advice. Maybe this situation had something to do with it.

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My wife , Son and DIL living with us ,have still not acknowledged my birthday today @ 5:15 pm , I might have to drop them a subtle hint.

by smiddy in

i know being a witness for 33 years and not celebrating b/days you do lose the habit , but i thought one of them would have remembered ?

oh well .. maybe i will just rub it in with them tomorrow .make them feel guilty , eh ?.

then again i might just start singing "76 trombones" at the dinner table tonight .

Listener

Happy Birthday Smiddy.

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About The GB-7

by coalize in

just asking about this "new light" of the 7 member of the governing body (the gb-7) being the fds.

what is the point?.

what biblical "argument" have they given about that ?

Listener

Coalize, there's been a lot of new light lately. Another significant one is that they state they weren't being as discreet as they should have in the past and are dropping all their types and antitype interpretations unless the scriptures indicate clearly that they should apply. Unfortunately they haven't been specific about where the bible clearly indicates this and have only given a few insignificant examples.

Even if a JW was keen enough to keep up to date it is impossible because the GB are not specific enough.

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Book cover for Kingdom Maladies

by punkofnice in

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friends

righto poppickers.

as some of you know, i have been putting together a book of interviews and humour.

it is designed (i hope), soften the blow for those inside the wbt$ who want to escape and also prove to those that have left that they are not alone.. anyway.

Listener

My personal opinion is that the target audience with that cover would be younger blokes.

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Candace Conti Settles

by Nitty-Gritty in

hot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.

but it's all quiet here.

are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?

Listener

Wow Nitty Gritty, so on your logic we can assure ourselves that JWs are always telling the truth if it's not going to hurt them financially on a personal level. It also means that the individual JW doesn't care less about losing money for their organization.

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Candace Conti Settles

by Nitty-Gritty in

hot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.

but it's all quiet here.

are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?

Listener

Nitty Gritty -

I am not saying a JW is not capable of lying, but in this case, no JW or elder had anything to lose by saying the truth, so why would they lie?

What are you talking about, they had nothing to lose? They lost the case.

The very reason they don't handle abuse cases properly is because they put the interests of the organization ahead of the interests of the child.

Their were two main incentives to lie - to protect the organization and to win the case.

Now that you have at least two reasons as to why they would lie, do you think that they did?