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Ouch!

by LevelThePlayingField in

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/25/us-singapore-censorship-iduskbn0te19320151125#p8j4iosvuyqyziq6.97.

singapore slashes publication bans, but not for jehovah's witnesses.

strait-laced singapore has slashed the number of publications it bans to 17 from a previous 257, allowing some communist and adult topics, but kept a prohibition on jehovah's witnesses publications.. newly permitted books include "fanny hill", a british novel published in 1748 said to be the first erotic novel in english, and "the long march", a chinese communist history.. a number of the de-gazetted publications were out of print or were permissible under today's content standards, the media development authority said in an emailed statement explaining the changes.. adult magazines such as playboy, penthouse and hustler remain banned, as are publications by the jehovah's witnesses church produced by its watch tower bible and tract society and the international bible students association.. the church's publications sit in the banned list alongside "hardcore pornographic publications" that "depict female models in sexually suggestive poses and their genitals", the government agency said.. singapore deregistered the jehovahs witnesses and banned its publications in 1972 because the church objects to serving national service in the military or singing national anthems.. read more at reutershttp://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/25/us-singapore-censorship-iduskbn0te19320151125#keowgufecfsjusvm.99

Listener

Thanks for sharing TheLevelPlayingField.

Singapore is a lovely country and probably stands out as the Jewel of all the Asian Countries and more advanced than my own Country, Australia. We felt safer there than at home. As a holiday destination it offers a great deal and we have visited numerous times,

They are very protective of their society and have many laws with this in mind. One of their funniest is that you cannot eat chewing gum but probably not so funny when you see how clean most places are. It's a real pleasure to wander around, even amongst the tall buildings.

In recent years they have built two Casinos but the residents are discouraged from visiting them. They are charged approximately $71USD per day for attending. In Malaysia, their neighbour, it is illegal for a Muslim to even enter a Casino, I am not sure about the laws in Singapore.

Several years ago it was amusing to watch an elderly couple making themselves comfortable under a big shady tree in a park and listen to what sounded like a recorded JW convention. This was before JW org TV. I gather it wasn't illegal to have these taped recordings of meetings. I guess it was this couples way of giving a public witnessing or possibly just more pleasant than sitting at home in a small confined area.

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I just found out that my youngest brother committed suicide

by SnakesInTheTower in

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my middle brother called me a couple of hours ago.

our youngest brother, josh, who was 38, was found by his friends in his apartment.

he hung himself.

Listener

Very sad to hear this, hope you are doing okay.

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Ex-Jehovah's Witness elder jailed for sex assaults on schoolgirl

by LevelThePlayingField in

this is becoming more common.

this is from the last part of the article: .

"this was about sexual gratification and you are a hypocrite because you became an elder and you investigated a sexual matter even with this in your sexual background.".

Listener

JW daughter, you are right but the Elders probably reasoned out the matter in a different way. It might be that he never mentioned the matter to anyone and never apologized to the victim. Although a lot of Elders may have let the matter go the fact that it was made public and he admitted guilt, they had to be seen as taking action.

My guess is he didn't get disfellowshipped for the act itself but because he didn't show any signs of repentance all these years.

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Kenneth Flodin: ‘This Generation Will ... Not Pass Away’ (Matt. 24:34)

by wifibandit in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmbpbb5k_mc

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Baldeagle - When he talks about some speculating that a 40+ year old anointed in say 1990 could well live into his 80’s he says, “Does that mean that this old system could continue until 2040?” He continues on saying that the Bible and Jesus make no mention that the 2nd group of anointed brothers have to be “old, decrepit or near death.” He says that the prophecy makes no reference to age.

What is crazy about this is he tells these ones that they shouldn't be speculating because just two versus later Jesus said no one knows the day or the hour.

He particularly says "remember Jesus said we weren't supposed to find a formula of the time of the end (big frown) ...and even if that speculation is a remote possibility there would be very few in that category...it could reach it's culmination this year to be absolutely accurate, not all of the second group would have passed away..."

He condemns the GB by saying we aren't supposed to come up with a time line but once again their interpretation does that very thing.

No wonder he was nervous about his talk. It would seem that his brief was to make it sound like Armageddon could likely occur very shortly but he stuffed up big time.

He also states that Freddie made a note in one of the publications that he was 'baptised into Jesus' death on Nov. 1913. This sounds like a very different type of baptism than what is now practised.

If Freddie kept notes such as the one found in the suitcase and having lived so long, I'd say he would've needed much more than an old suitcase, even a trunk, more like a sea container.

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Just saw this video, just goes to show you how the elders lie...JW Elder's Response To My DA Letter

by goingthruthemotions in

saw this video of a brave woman who gave a da letter and an elder tries to talk with her.

this guy comes across has full of shite, and you know he would be a different person if there were other elders around with him.

kangaroo court jokers is what comes to my mind.

Listener

Tripmama10, sorry to hear that you went through a really tough time. It's really sad that those 'taking the lead' aren't able to help.

What the Elder had to say was just empty words. It was very telling towards the end when you highlighted that both your father and the Organization had let you down and he wouldn't acknowledge that fact for a second.

The organization is perfect and you were wrong in attributing any blame on their part - I'm sure that makes you feel really good and ready to return for more of the same.

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Decrease of numbers in Jehovah's Witnesses via Deaths, DFings, or Turning Inactive

by flipper in

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so i'm sure a good number of us saw the chart that i believe the poster splash put on another thread of figures since 1990 regarding how many baptized and % of increase each year .

i started analyzing it ( and i know some referred to it briefly on the other thread ) and guessing of reasons the % of increase didn't match the number of newly baptized.

and of course common sense tells us that either jw's leave the cult each year through death, fading into inactivity, or getting dfed.

Listener

The 40,000 death or exit figure for 2014 seems very odd. There would likely have been more deaths alone in this year without even considering the number who left.

A possible explanation would be a large number of previously baptised persons returning.

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Revelation - it's grand climax is at hand

by Listener in

some people point out the subliminal pictures in the wtbts publications but sometimes things are just so obvious, such as the title of the book above.. the person who came up with the title for this book must have had a good old laugh.. interestingly, this book first came out in 1988 and has not been included in the online library but nothing has replaced it.

the org is really going backwards when they ditch old light and cannot come up with anything new.

they are real wankers ;)..

Listener

Some people point out the subliminal pictures in the wtbts publications but sometimes things are just so obvious, such as the title of the book above.

The person who came up with the title for this book must have had a good old laugh.

Interestingly, this book first came out in 1988 and has not been included in the online library but nothing has replaced it. The org is really going backwards when they ditch old light and cannot come up with anything new. They are real wankers ;).

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so a report came out and made jws look bad

by lettersfromthevoid in

what is the commission and the governments going to do?

will they be slapped with a fine?

will they be forced to do this or that lest they lose non profit status?

Listener

Okay but the report is not out yet.

I expect the RC is giving org's such as the WTBTS time to allow them the opportunity to come up with their own reform and advise the RC of their changes. If they don't reform or their reforms are inadequate then the Commission will address this in a report, it will be damning for the wtbts.

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