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My First post

by Simple Minds in

i have been lurking on this site for 3 years and this is my fist post.

i would like to thank everyone for helping me wake up.

i was baptized at 24, married at 25, ms for 18 years mentally in for 24 years but started to wake up 3 years ago doing research to give public talks, and the actions of arrogant and narcissistic brothers and sisters did not help.

Listener

That's a great letter but also sad. I hope things are getting better for you and you have a better understanding of why you felt inadequate.

Just for emphasis you could add another sentence about their money grab. Something like - "Now I feel there is an added pressure and that is to give even more money when I've already tried my best to provide as much as I can."

Since you are writing the letter, think about making it clear to them that you couldn't handle meeting with them to discuss your situation and that you desperately need the time alone to reflect on all that you have had to deal with and to help improve your outlook. You could also add that you would be very grateful that instead of meeting with you, you would greatly appreciate it if they would pray for you. Also that you feel strengthening your relationship with Jehovah through bible reading, prayer and improving the way you interact with your family would be the most beneficial thing to do at this point in time. Tell them that you will let them know if you feel that they can do more for you in the future.

I'm not one to pick on spelling mistakes but given that it is a letter to a group of people you might want to check over it. A few that I noticed were-

Brake down - breakdown, Physiologist, diving - driving, cant- can't

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2016-01-01 BOE Re: 2016 Memorial and Special Talk

by wifibandit in

pdf.

thank you atlantis / wtunderground !.

Listener

This year, in addition to visiting inactive ones, you should make a special effort to invite disfellowshipped ones to the Memorial and the special public talk.

So much for throwing these people out of the Congregation in the first place. How is it that they are not associating with them, or having anything to do with them by inviting them back?

The memorial is one of the most significant acts of worship that they engage in and they're asking disfellowshipped ones to share it with them.

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January jw-tv broadcast with Lett

by bohm in

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friends

lett is back with a vengance!.

* the last money-begging effort increased donations by 15% for two months; a letter by a 13 year old who donated is read out loud.

* since last may "so many good things have happened".

Listener

He uses the Israelites as an example and then goes on to explain that their situation is different.

For one thing God had a special Covenant with the Israelites, they were a special earthly organization that God established, through birthrights, direct communication and with their own Governing arrangement authorized by God. God never intended this arrangement to exist again. Jesus established a new covenant and it didn't involve the building of temples.

The other thing is that he said the temple was a 'one off' expense, apparently there was no need for continual maintenance, let alone any other buildings that would have been required for meeting together.

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Watchtower April 2016 Neutrality

by Listener in

suppose that a popular uprising tries to oust an oppressive regime, one under which gods people have also suffered.

although we would not march with the protesters, might we be with them in spirit?

(eph.

Listener

Other crazy statements from the April, 2016 Watchtower include

In addition, since 1914, human governments have become rivals to God’s Kingdom, which will soon execute judgment on the nations by destroying them.—

What evidence is there that Governments became rivals in 1914 and on what date? How is it that they were never rivals before 1914?

help you to be speciﬁc in your prayers. It includes links to lists of Witnesses currently imprisoned for their faith. Pick some names,and pray that such ones courageously maintain their integrity

Now they are being told to pray for individuals by name, people they do not know at all. Because their name is listed on the official JW website they can pray for them.

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what things can we say

by pepperheart in

what sort of things could we say to people on the trolleys and going door to door to make the most of the fact that the magazines are going bimonthly from now on .

ie oh will headquaters pay able to give you a bit of money for your fuel costs now ?.

Listener

You could say that you are surprised that there isn't one bible on the trolley and wondered if it was too costly to give them away.

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Those keenly following umbertoecho ARC Brief Update.

by MightyV8 in

i feel it is comfortable to say,.

yes her arc hearing has come and gone.. yes her hearing was so powerful, her allotted time was tripled!.

yes, information handed over "mind blowing" response from arc.

Listener

I would like to flag your post Makemeanunbeliever as I feel you are just trying to undermine people on here.

For far too long people have just accepted the mistreatment dished out to them from the WTBTS, they are slowly being exposed even though it is evident that there are still Jw heavies and other ignorant ones who would prefer that things continue on the way they are. For too long they have had complete freedom in behaving in an unloving and cruel manner. They wouldn't be in this situation if they had stuck to bible principles instead of protecting their mighty beast - the Org.

Even though you know your post is cruel, you've got no idea just how cruel it is.

Isn't it simply amazing that it has been the Governments of this World that want to do something positive and beneficial to help and assist victims and to prevent future victims? The Aust RC is proof of this. The WTBTS have had decades to improve their policies and it has taken the Commission to determine that they have done very little. Through court cases and being exposed to the World they now have to face the backlash. Just look at how they are reacting to all this and it's clear that they are taking it very hard.

It is a big deal and it takes a little person (or the WTBTS) to think it's not.

You can carry on all you want on some issues but when it comes to child abuse you're not going to get away with it. It amazes me how anyone would want to troll about such a serious issue when it is obvious that so much damage has been done.

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"Marked" for association with "worldly guy"

by Anon_SA1 in

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my best friend has recently been "marked" for associating with a "worldly guy" what advice can you give me to pass onto her?

i am not a jw, never been one, so looking for guidance.

thank you in advance.

Listener

The Shepherding the Flock Book instructs the Elders to mark the person

Example-mark for dating an "unbeliever": The elders should first counsel and try to help a disorderly one. If a person persists in a way that is disturbing and that has the potential for spreading, they may conclude that there would be reason for a warning talk to be given to the congregation.-2 Cor. 6:14; 2 Thess. 3:11, 14; w99 7/15 p. 3l. ...3. If the disorderly one becomes ashamed of his ways and is moved to change, then as elders of the congregation see the adjustment, they can individuaUy dedde to end the limitation they have put on personally sodalizing with him. This will indicate to the congregation that he is no longer marked.

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Those keenly following umbertoecho ARC Brief Update.

by MightyV8 in

i feel it is comfortable to say,.

yes her arc hearing has come and gone.. yes her hearing was so powerful, her allotted time was tripled!.

yes, information handed over "mind blowing" response from arc.

Listener

Umbertoecho has put so much into this and is to be greatly commended. MightV8, you mentioned about her family and I hope everything is manageable in that area.

What I admire most about Umbertoecho is her love for other people and her willingness to help in working towards justice for victims.

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My RC hearing brought forward. Will be in two weeks

by umbertoecho in

through this forum of wonderful freaks, i have met someone who is coming with me to my hearing.

initially i was slated for next year, but will be attending in two weeks time.

all is in place from travel vouchers, support, where to go ............very efficient and well done.

Listener

Great to hear and thanks MightyV8 for keeping us up to date.

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Christian Family Gets 5 Children Taken Away by Gov't for Teaching God Punishes Sin

by GodZoo in

child welfare services in norway have reportedly removed five christian children from their parents' home and placed them into foster care after the parents were accused of radicalizing and indoctrinating their children with christianity.. according to the british-based christian institute, norway's child protection services, known as the barnevernet, seized the three sons and two daughters of ruth and marius bodnariu in mid-november.. .

although the family wasn't quite sure at the time why their children were being taken away from them, their lawyer discovered that the parents were being charged with christian indoctrination.http://www.christianpost.com/news/christian-family-gets-5-children-taken-away-by-govt-for-teaching-god-punishes-sin-151693/.

Listener

Radical Christian indoctrination was not the only charge according to the report but it is the only one listed in the report. Radical christian indoctrination could have a serious detrimental effect on the children but no details are presented.

"...The Bodnariu's lawyer obtained a copy of the government document that lists the charges against Marius and Ruth, which includes being listed as "radical Christians who were indoctrinating their children...."