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  Using your car in service and still the GB asking for money

  by life is to short in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i listen to dave ramsey while i work.

  he is that financial guy who hates debt.

  i agree with 90 percent of what he says.

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  Listener

  Life is too Short, that is a good point.

  For many JWs the extra costs that they meet personally would be amount to more than 10% of their income and for most pioneers it would be way more.
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  If JWs were to change their name what would they change it to?

  by slimboyfat in

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  2. beliefs

  was it 1931 when they adopted jehovah's witnesses?

  (at the time with lower case w) isn't it about time now they changed name again?

  i mean everything else is changing why not the name!

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  Jehovah's Christians - JC's (Jesus Christ), the closest they could get to including Jesus within their name but still retaining the name Jehovah which is one of the few things that they believe separate themselves from other Christians.
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  Governing Body Member Gerrit Loesch Must Eventually Take The Witness Stand In Child Molestation Lawsuits

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  with many more cases in the offing the zalkin lawfirm will press the issue again and again and force gerrit loesch to testify.

  what say you?.

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  Vidiot - ..Therefore (the way I see it, anyway) setting a virtually foolproof precedent to beat the WTS in court in any future abuse-related cases in the US.
  The WT Legal Dept. would have to be staffed by morons not to have figured this out by now; the recent upticks in fund solicitation and property sales can't be a coincidence.

  The Lawyers are now aware of their weak points. The WTBTS will now be paying out more even in settling cases.
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  Umbertoecho here.

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  hello people.. i'm tired and a bit sick at the moment but i can't let anyone think that this is going to go away.... i am able to tell you a few things in order to prevent any confusion in the minds of those who are thinking that nothing will come of this arc;that nothing will effect the wtbts in america and other places.. i have been there and given my testimony.

  helen milroy and her assistants were there along with another group of people who are there to lend assistance if you crack up at any time during or after the hearing.

  i did not crack up but can see how this happens.. security is tight and anonymity is sacred to them as they want to protect all who come forward.

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  Hope you get well soon Umbertoecho.

  Well done on getting through this and I don't doubt the Commission were thankful for your participation. Your efforts will have a long lasting benefit, not just here in Australia but for other countries as well.

  Umbertoecho - I found out I am being "researched already" by WT as of yesterday 5th January 2016.

  It's hard to believe the depths that they will sink to.
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  Have we become what we despise so much?

  by Tenacious in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the majority of members who tend to join this forum have been hurt possibly even traumatized sometimes to the point of wanting to end their lives.

  upon joining the forum, new members are welcomed with open arms, welcome messages start pouring in, "likes" are freely given, a false sense of security is promoted where a member is free to speak his mind without having to worry about the wt gestapo.

  again, similar to how potential converts are welcomed and "love bombed" upon entering a kh for the first time.

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  You have some valid points tenacious, however we generally don't love bomb people then expect to brainwash them into our own way of thinking and shun them when they don't.
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  Governing Body Member Geoffrey Jackson's Empathy For Survivors Of Child Abuse Hypocritical

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  so says the royal commission.

  which we all can agree.

  his expressed sympathy is a hollow sham and it is the same way with all the governing body's expressions of love and concern for all loyal member captured by their organization into servitude.

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  This is the wtbts response

  >>Response to suggested findings on Mr Jackson’s stated empathy on survivors

  11.69 Counsel Assisting’s suggested finding F65:

  F65 Mr Jackson’s failure to have read or be familiar with the testimony of the survivor

  witnesses yet to have read or otherwise familiarised himself with the testimony of Jehovah’s

  Witness witnesses belies his stated empathy for the survivors and his stated recognition of

  the importance of their perspectives.

  This suggested finding is completely untrue and should be amended to

  reflect what Mr Geoffrey Jackson himself explained, as elaborated on in

  paragraphs 9.353 and 10.6:

  I wasn’t aware of the fact that I would be called before the Commission ...

  I haven’t lived in Australia for 36 years, and I haven’t certainly had a chance to

  look through the files ... The reason I came here was to care for my ailing

  father, and that has taken a lot of my time.<<

  The commission found that his empathy was not genuine and they proved it from his own actions yet they want to argue about it (to the higher authorities).

  What stands out is the org holds JC's all the time to determine whether someone is truelly repentant or not. There is virtually no evidence and definitely no arguing back.

  His excuse shows that he didn't think it was important enough. His request for the commission to pass on his sympathy was completely ungenuine and simply a public display at pretending to show some concern. There is nothing preventing him from reading about her case after the hearing and even sending her a personal letter, that would be a true christian act.
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  Those keenly following umbertoecho ARC Brief Update.

  by MightyV8 in

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  2. scandals

  i feel it is comfortable to say,.

  yes her arc hearing has come and gone.. yes her hearing was so powerful, her allotted time was tripled!.

  yes, information handed over "mind blowing" response from arc.

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  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5713865291595776/2015-11-18-boe-credits-jwfacts?page=1&size=20

  You can find details about the letter through the above link. They could potentially be in breach of the Privacy Act. They have so little regard for anyone, including their own people. The interests of the wtbts beast is their priority. They think they own people.
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  My First post

  by Simple Minds in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have been lurking on this site for 3 years and this is my fist post.

  i would like to thank everyone for helping me wake up.

  i was baptized at 24, married at 25, ms for 18 years mentally in for 24 years but started to wake up 3 years ago doing research to give public talks, and the actions of arrogant and narcissistic brothers and sisters did not help.

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  Listener

  That's a great letter but also sad. I hope things are getting better for you and you have a better understanding of why you felt inadequate.

  Just for emphasis you could add another sentence about their money grab. Something like - "Now I feel there is an added pressure and that is to give even more money when I've already tried my best to provide as much as I can."

  Since you are writing the letter, think about making it clear to them that you couldn't handle meeting with them to discuss your situation and that you desperately need the time alone to reflect on all that you have had to deal with and to help improve your outlook. You could also add that you would be very grateful that instead of meeting with you, you would greatly appreciate it if they would pray for you. Also that you feel strengthening your relationship with Jehovah through bible reading, prayer and improving the way you interact with your family would be the most beneficial thing to do at this point in time. Tell them that you will let them know if you feel that they can do more for you in the future.

  I'm not one to pick on spelling mistakes but given that it is a letter to a group of people you might want to check over it. A few that I noticed were-

  Brake down - breakdown, Physiologist, diving - driving, cant- can't
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  2016-01-01 BOE Re: 2016 Memorial and Special Talk

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  pdf.

  thank you atlantis / wtunderground !.

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  This year, in addition to visiting inactive ones, you should make a special effort to invite disfellowshipped ones to the Memorial and the special public talk.

  
  So much for throwing these people out of the Congregation in the first place. How is it that they are not associating with them, or having anything to do with them by inviting them back?

  The memorial is one of the most significant acts of worship that they engage in and they're asking disfellowshipped ones to share it with them.
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  January jw-tv broadcast with Lett

  by bohm in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  lett is back with a vengance!.

  * the last money-begging effort increased donations by 15% for two months; a letter by a 13 year old who donated is read out loud.

  * since last may "so many good things have happened".

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  He uses the Israelites as an example and then goes on to explain that their situation is different.

  For one thing God had a special Covenant with the Israelites, they were a special earthly organization that God established, through birthrights, direct communication and with their own Governing arrangement authorized by God. God never intended this arrangement to exist again. Jesus established a new covenant and it didn't involve the building of temples.

  The other thing is that he said the temple was a 'one off' expense, apparently there was no need for continual maintenance, let alone any other buildings that would have been required for meeting together.