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New WT pdf tells children to report. Irony?

by wifibandit in

pdf.

why won't watchtower tell abusers "i'm going to tell on you!

" and follow through with the proper authorities?

Listener

Parents, read Awake! October 2007 and October 8, 1993. Now play a game of
“What if . . . ?” with your child. Ask how your child would respond to different scenarios.
Children, practice how to respond.

The whole instruction sheet is so odd and so out of touch, it borders on being really weird, especially with calling it a game and the play acting.

Ask how your child would respond to different scenarios.

Shouldn't that be "Ask you child how they would respond to different scenarios" or even more appropriately, giving the subject matter - "Ask you child to explain how they would respond to different scenarios"?
Is it just me or maybe some difference between American language and Australian language?

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Youtube video: Amazing Sermon ....Love Identifies The True Christian Congregation

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

i just came across a video on youtube.com.highlighted in yellow is what was written about this video.i could only watch the first couple of minutes!.bring out your puke bags or hit yourself in the head with a hammer after reading this grand,blown out of proportion discription of this talk!

if someone can imbed this video i would appreciate it!.

published on feb 15, 2014. in this lecture here "love identifies the true christian congregation", a dynamic and wise christian elder discusses the gospel of john, christian love and unity, the book of acts, 1st corinthians, philippians, the first-century true christian congregation, and the new covenant witnesses of the most high today.

Listener

I wonder if the speaker understands that according to their doctrine, the true Christian congregation and the New Covenant Christians are only made up of the anointed.

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Question about the number 2,520 and the book “New Heavens and a New Earth” (1953)

by Hecce in

question about the number 2,520 and the book “new heavens and a new earth” (1953).

there is a footnote on page 138 of this book; it has to do with the number 2,520 being a perfect number and the result of multiplying the four perfect numbers in sequence.

i have done the math and it works.

Listener

There are many more than just those four numbers noted in that book. A title search shows that 2,520 is an abundant number and therefore not a perfect number.

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New WT pdf tells children to report. Irony?

by wifibandit in

pdf.

why won't watchtower tell abusers "i'm going to tell on you!

" and follow through with the proper authorities?

Listener

Great, make a game out of discussing child abuse.

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Reading the Yearbook

by Listener in

i just remembered something from the past as a jw.. in the 60s and 70s our dad would have a mini study at the dinner table every day on that days text from the yearbook.

one of us would read the text and then dad would ask questions or make comments about it.. this was, of course, on top of a weekly family study.. since there were usually about 7 of us at the table it required a number of yearbooks to be purchased.

the society came up with genius ways of why we needed so many of their publications, i am assuming this was suggested by them.. this daily ritual used to be done at breakfast to start with but ended up not working out so well, then it was changed to dinner time.

Listener

I just remembered something from the past as a JW.

In the 60s and 70s our dad would have a mini study at the dinner table every day on that days text from the yearbook. One of us would read the text and then dad would ask questions or make comments about it.

This was, of course, on top of a weekly family study.

Since there were usually about 7 of us at the table it required a number of yearbooks to be purchased. The society came up with genius ways of why we needed so many of their publications, I am assuming this was suggested by them.

This daily ritual used to be done at breakfast to start with but ended up not working out so well, then it was changed to dinner time. It was like our own mini bethel.

Did any of you guys do the same?

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When selling was preaching ...

by Hecce in

i am going way, way back.

history reveals that in the beginning the wt was just a publishing house, selling books and magazines; over the years it evolved into what it is today..

the placement of the original publications was mostly done thru sales people masquerading as preachers.

Listener

I was told that the pioneers paid so little because they have most of their literature for free.

At least that was one way to keep up with the high count of placements which was a requirement for them.

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being given holy spirit is not the same as being anointed, nor are they the same as 144,000

by sowhatnow in

so im at my moms the other day, and there lay the latest january study issue has an article about the whole made up silly story of the upper room and the holy spirit.

[ how hard it is to be quiet....] .

i have never read acts, and saw that story happen.

Listener

You make a lot of good points.

Other than the 7 so called anointed GB members the rest of the remnant are of no importance. I guess the only reason why they are told they are anointed is so they know they should be partaking once a year.

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Family get together. Non-JW's, Jw's, me (df) and Mormon.

by James Mixon in

i posted a topic a few months ago on the family gathering.

well it turn out the jw's.

side of the family are excited about it, even though they know i will be there.. i believe they are tired of the shunning bs..

Listener

Sounds like it might be enjoyable.

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Infighting at the top?

by JeffT in

jw
friends

we've all been trying to decipher what is going on at the top of the watchtower organization.

clearly, the game's afoot, we just don't know what game we're playing.

item: the constant harping about money and donations.

Listener

There are clues as to what is happening. One of them is the new kingdom hall design. They are now generic commercial buildings. What real christian would vote for this sort of design? Who would put money over spirituality? Yet this is what they have done. The GB didn't come up with this design and the GB didn't push for this design. They were influenced by others.

The GB have allowed this to happen and they also themselves to be used in other ways. No doubt they believe that it is for the good of the organisation.

Someone or some division of the group have convinced them that its okay to be tele evangeliasts. They are like puppets, joyfully cry out for money. They relate the most absurd examples of people giving money and are prepared to go as low as trying to manipulate children for their own purposes.

Geoffrey Jackson said at the RC that he wasn't sure about a particular policy because it was not his 'field'. There doesn't appear to be any real leadership stemming forth from the GB.

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when you went to an "assembly" did you wear a badge?

by greenhornet in

jw
friends

it embarrassed me.

when i was young my folks made me wear one and i opened it up and took the paper out making it look like it fell out.

after my folks ask what happen i said i dont know.

Listener

Dad would make us wear one all the time. We hated them, mostly because they were so dangerous, children should not have been wearing them. The plastic edges were very sharp and most of the covers were so brittle that they would hardly last one assembly. They were forever being replaced. This was in Australia in the 60s and 70s.

Did they charge for the cards and the covers?