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Who Picks The Governing Body?
by millie210 inhey everyone,.
just a simple straight forward question on exactly what the process is.
if a gb member died tomorrow, do the remaining ones choose who gets to be next?.
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Out of the current 7 GB members, I believe only one (Morris) has had children. These guys are appointed leaders and have had no experience in raising children. -
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Trying To Leave - Im Going Crazy
by pale.emperor inthis is my first post.
i really feel i need to leave the jw's rather than go along pretending everything is perfect etc.
no friends, me at work.
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What she did was bad but you forgave her, I think it is disgusting that the elders disfellowshipped her and subjected her to shunning. This must have been extremely hard for her to deal with and for you to watch.
You've got every reason to think little of the Elders, it seems all the trouble you have had to deal with has had an elder involved. -
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Who Picks The Governing Body?
by millie210 inhey everyone,.
just a simple straight forward question on exactly what the process is.
if a gb member died tomorrow, do the remaining ones choose who gets to be next?.
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If you've never had children your chances of being selected are far greater. -
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Trying To Leave - Im Going Crazy
by pale.emperor inthis is my first post.
i really feel i need to leave the jw's rather than go along pretending everything is perfect etc.
no friends, me at work.
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It amazes me that you can forgive your wife but the Elders still find her unrepentant.
Your wife should not be divulging private information to her father, why is she doing this? It seems like she neither trusts you or respects you but maybe she is just a very insecure person (given her confiding to another Elder and seeking support from her father). -
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Tight Pants
by pixel intoday is friday.
so let's see something refreshing on the new june 2016 study wt.
tight pants!.
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I love how Tony Morris' tight pants talk only made it to pictures and even 16 months on, it is still a problem and given the article has been prepared 6 months in advance, they think it will still be a problem in the future.
What a pity they didn't show a picture of the Elders counseling a Sister wearing spandex, or even better, spanx. -
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"New light"?
by winstonchurchill inhttps://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-june-2016/man-with-inkhorn/.
so i guess baptism is no longer the "mark for survival".. as a matter of fact, that key aspect of the 'old light' is not even acknowledged in this article.. they are just publishing new understanding without even bothering to explain the full extent of the change, hoping nobody will remember how it was... and they may be right about that..
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Good pick up Londo. The man with the inkhorn used to be the anointed. Now all of the anointed, other than the GB are demoted once again, they are just domestics along with the GC. -
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WTS buys £1,000,000 luxury sea-front property in Wales, UK
by Simon inshower room.
office.
games room.
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Is there a link for the current sale and the current sale price? -
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You would think they would be embarrassed
by stillin into tout the fact that jesus christ is the head of the congregation is fine... if he was.
a quick glance at the page in the back of the current study wt seems to say otherwise.
if you recall, they print up a page at the end of every year with a quick rundown of the articles for the previous year.. surprise!
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They are not embarrassed, in the silver sword Jesus' name is not in the Glossary of Bible Terms whereas Jehovah is and also Jacob and Judah. Satan and Devil are also listed. -
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A fresh start
by FormerlySandL inafter the worst introduction i could ever make on the forum i would like to reintroduce myself and make a fresh start on the forum and hopefully over time i will be able to redeem myself.
i have changed my user name which was over dramatic and ridiculous in the cold light of day but for transparency and to show i am not trying to hide anything i have adapted the original name and it now has a more positive feel.
after reading a lot of posts on this forum i am feeling more optimistic about my future.
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Welcome to the forum. MarkofCane is right, it shows character that you chose to stay and I hope you do stay for a while. -
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Analysis of Brooklyn Eagle Articles related to Miracle Wheat
by ILoveTTATT2 inthis article appeared in the september 22, 1911 brooklyn eagle.
notice the "general counsel".
church a salesroom for 'miracle' wheat at $60 per bushel .
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"Other people than my own," explained Pastor Russell, "wouldn't believe that this wheat contains extraordinary qualities. It is too much of a miracle for them to comprehend."
That is an incredible statement to make, it's a pity he didn't print that in his own publications but I think reporters in those days were much more reputable and would not have reported it if he didn't say it.
Firstly he states that HE owns his people and that he can make them believe whatever he tells them to believe. It's fine for the Watchtower to claim that Russell didn't personally make anything financially from the sale but the Watchtower did, he basically owned the Watchtower and 'owned' his followers through the use of this instrument. Even though the Watchtower would not admit to this, it is more damning that the sale and profits were directly attributed to them rather than an individual person (being Russell). The fact remains that Russell was personally responsible for this.
Although the defenders spent much more effort in portraying Russell as being innocent of all this, it is the organization that is supposed to be the earthly part of God's Kingdom and in the spotlight. In reality, back then, Russell was the organization but it's interesting that they focus on Russell and not the organization.
It also goes beyond the idea that 'miracle wheat' was just given that name or label by the original owner, with the suggestion that there was no claim that it was miraculous, his statement shows that he did want to convey that it was.
W 53 5/15 Brother Russell neither named it nor profited from it
Yearbook 75 The conduct of Brother Russell and the Society in connection with Miracle Wheat was completely open and aboveboard.
You are doing some fantastic research on this ILoveTtatt, you are furthering the proof that the above claim is false and that this claim that they have maintained even in 1975 was also not completely open and aboveboard. Interesting though, not only was Bro. Russell unblemished with this affair but the Society was also.
I wonder what is more damning, that Russel went along with this scam in the first place or the claims and excuses that the Watchtower make 60 years later.