Listener

Joined

• started 199 topics
• posted 4,922 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by Listener

• 
  26

  I think my Sunday speaker is awake

  by Yondaime in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi guys and gals,.

  its been a long time since i've posted here, i've been caught up with school and work so i've never had the time to post on the forum, but i've still been reading through some articles on here.

  now that finals are over i have some time to breath.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Listener

  They are taught this at the Gilead school, this could have been one of the brothers that does the teaching.

  With so much ttatt available today they are prepared to discuss the past with the wheelies. They put their slant on the information. They are so happy to use the past to show how far they have come. They have no shame in spinning it any way they can.

  They even say that God knew what his people needed at the time, that is why the charismatic Russell led the people initially and the tougher Rutherford took over.
• 
  20

  A cording to today's wt not speaking to someone is evil

  by poopie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  wow

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Listener

  You cannot respect a husband that abuses you emotionally. It is not possible unless you are in a religion that abuses you emotionally by telling you to put up with such mistreatment.
• 
  21

  George Cook former DO, now just an elder at Prince's home congregation KH

  by oppostate in

  1. social
  2. current

  george cook, omg, george f'ing cook, whattttt!.

  caption: elder george cook (right), one of the nine elders of the small 90-person congregation, said prince regularly ‘witnessed’ alone in the community and in groups.

  he was very detail oriented and very eccentric.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Listener

  He looks like he is holding so many papers, possibly BOE letters. It is surprising that with nine Elders in prince's congregation that they didn't oust him. No doubt HQ had a lot of input.
• 
  58

  Jehovah's Witness Church Release Statement

  by truthseekeriam in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  "we are saddened to hear about the death of prince rogers nelson, who was baptized as one of jehovah’s witnesses in 2003," the church said in a statement obtained by people.

  the church said that prince "found fulfillment as a witness and in sharing his faith with others.

  http://www.people.com/article/prince-dead-jehovah-witness-release-statement.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Listener

  This shows their complete support for Prince, they are so desperate for money.
• 
  8

  Interaction with Cart People

  by Lost and adrift in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  on a recent visit to our capital..such an adrenalin rush when i rounded a corner and spotted carters !!.

  wandered slowly over and pretend to be interested..asked could i take mag...initial impression (and i'm in no way snobbish) was 2 scruffy looking dowdy sisters wich irritated me i don't know why....i was allways struggling as a single mum but refused to look like a tramp!!.

  sister jumped asked if i was interested in religion i said no too much abuse etc ...she said she undwrstood and went on to blather about catholic abuse scandal!

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Listener

  That's great. It's so funny that she told you to look at their video's and you mention one in return that she should watch. It's sad that they don't know what is going on in their own religion so well done for bringing it up.
• 
  10

  Marking Talk of Couple

  by Hadriel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  at no time did the elders ever mention apostasy.

  days later after a shepherding call which only covered child abuse handling they are being marked as if they are trying to get their own followers etc.

  so so sad.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ktm7fsqwrw.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Listener

  It's ran by imperfect men.

  Then where does God and Jesus fit in the earthly part of his organisation?
• 
  28

  Overlapping gen teaching- Help?

  by raven in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi friends,.

  can someone please help explain to me the overlapping generations teaching?

  i have not been able to grasp this one or what it even applies to?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Listener

  According to their own teachings the prophecy that 'this generation will by no means pass away until all these things come true' cannot occur.

  The statement indicates that the generation WILL pass away, it is only the timing which is discussed. It does not say 'will never pass away'. A recent article discusses the rapture during the GT, where the anointed will be instantly transformed and enter the heavenly realm.

  Their previous teaching had survivors passing through Armageddon to live forever.
• 
  49

  Korean News : CoC in Korean

  by AntiEntropy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi bros.. after my father's publishing his book, "15 questions after 40 years of jw" , many ex-jw bros in korea became motivated to rush to the coc korean project.

  however any secular project needs a fund eventhough it's a not-for-profit.

  fortunately, a bunch of bros decided to donate generously $300~$7,000 to this unprofitable business.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Listener

  Yes, I am concerned that there is a money grab going on but not on her part. I wonder if she is being taken advantage of and the delay in getting this book available doesn't do anything to allay those doubts.
• 
  49

  Korean News : CoC in Korean

  by AntiEntropy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi bros.. after my father's publishing his book, "15 questions after 40 years of jw" , many ex-jw bros in korea became motivated to rush to the coc korean project.

  however any secular project needs a fund eventhough it's a not-for-profit.

  fortunately, a bunch of bros decided to donate generously $300~$7,000 to this unprofitable business.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Listener

  You're right Hadriel- it is her choice and with that, most of what has occurred (or not occurred) since she received the Copyright and what occurs in the future is a direct reflection on her.

  As for people expecting it to be sorted out in 24 hours, I think you are over exaggerating
• 
  45

  Under WT rules, can JW women file for a divorce? Or can only men file?

  by JimmyPage in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the reason i ask is because while watching the "dateline" episode about ralph candelario, the claim was made that only jw men could file for divorce, not women.

  .

  i had never thought about this before.. also, how does this apply in cases where a husband is "apostate" while the wife is faithful to wt?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Listener

  Their definition of adultery is rarely clearly explained. Maybe the reason for that issue to their flip flopping on the issue.

  I understand it currently means the same as pornea with the only difference being marriage.

  Pornea involves the manipulation of sexual organs (but not breasts, no doubt the divorce rate would be even greater if it included this).

  At one stage adultery didn't include sex with a person of the same sex or an animal.

  This is a suspicion but I bet it does not include child sexual abuse. One of the RC case studies helps to confirm this.