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My 1st Unwitness

by HappyGal in

i have seen the witnessing carts pop up around our city.

there were no such carts when i left the jw's in the 1980's.

since leaving the organization i have survived (and thrived) by: .

Listener

That's great work Happy Gal.

I am also appalled that she left her kids in the car.

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the watchtower 1970 4/1 emphasis the principle that singing at the kingdom hall is part of worship to god and is one of the most beautiful ways they can show this worship to him.. of all the ways in which we can worship and praise jehovah god—by prayer, by public talks, by our field ministry and by our exemplary conduct—one of the most beautiful of them is this literal singing of songs to jehovah’s praise....and, above all, let us pay more than usual attention to the words.

it is by the words that we worship jehovah god, bringing praise to him.

as an introduction to song 146, jw org states -jesus considers any act of love and support for his anointed brothers as though it were done for him.

Listener

Thanks for your comments OneEyedJoe and DataDog regarding the idea of being repaid.

Thanks nmthinker for the link to that very interesting thread regarding the sheep and the goats. They changed their idea regarding being appointed by Jesus over all his belongings in 2013. Part of his belongings included the other sheep and was used as confirmation of their authority over the other sheep. They are now left with only Matthew 25:35-40 (sheep and goats) to try to enforce their authority.

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Song 146 - You did it for me

by Listener in

the watchtower 1970 4/1 emphasis the principle that singing at the kingdom hall is part of worship to god and is one of the most beautiful ways they can show this worship to him.. of all the ways in which we can worship and praise jehovah god—by prayer, by public talks, by our field ministry and by our exemplary conduct—one of the most beautiful of them is this literal singing of songs to jehovah’s praise....and, above all, let us pay more than usual attention to the words.

it is by the words that we worship jehovah god, bringing praise to him.

as an introduction to song 146, jw org states -jesus considers any act of love and support for his anointed brothers as though it were done for him.

Listener

The Watchtower 1970 4/1 emphasis the principle that singing at the Kingdom Hall is part of worship to God and is one of the most beautiful ways they can show this worship to him.

of all the ways in which we can worship and praise Jehovah God—by prayer, by public talks, by our field ministry and by our exemplary conduct—one of the most beautiful of them is this literal singing of songs to Jehovah’s praise....And, above all, let us pay more than usual attention to the words. It is by the words that we worship Jehovah God, bringing praise to Him

As an introduction to Song 146, JW org states -

Jesus considers any act of love and support for his anointed brothers as though it were done for him

Since they have been admonished to also take special note of the words, here are the lyrics to Song No. 146

Other sheep Jesus has, and they serve alongside
those anointed to be Christ’s heavenly bride.
All the things that are done
for their comfort and aid
are things he considers that must be repaid.
(CHORUS)
“If you comforted them, you comforted me.
If you did it for them, you did it for me.
Your labors for them were your labors for me.
You did it for them; you did it for me.
If you did it for them, you did it for me.”
“Yes, you comforted me in my hunger and thirst,
and whatever my need, you came to me first.”
“Tell us, when did we do this?”
these ones will reply.
The King will then answer them, telling them why:
(CHORUS)
“You’ve been loyal to me, doing works that are fine,
as you preach alongside these brothers of mine.”
So the King will then say
to the sheep on his right:
“Inherit the earth and perfection of life.”
(CHORUS)
(See also Prov. 19:17; Matt. 10:40-42; 2 Tim. 1:16, 17.)

As if it is not enough that they are singing songs of praise to the Governing Body, the first part of the song is a claim by them that works and aid are actually owed to them. They use the phrase that these things must be 'repaid'.

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Brighton RC Baptism Numbers

by konceptual99 in

so there was a peak attendance of around 8700 (as i recall - i was dozing...).

baptism numbers - 24. so around 0.27%.

it may be slightly up or down on that depending on the actual attendance.. the majority of baptism candidates were young people so very likely born-in..

Listener

Thanks for the report Konceptual99, that number is very low which is good to see.

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Why are anniversaries allowed but not birthdays?

by hyperpen in

the scripture quotes aside, i was always told that we don't celebrate birthdays because that is a celebration of the self, which has no place in jehovah's organization.

then why celebrate anniversaries?

anniversary celebrations are about the joining of two selves, isn't that twice as selfish?.

Listener

They have made rules regarding Wedding Anniversaries. They want them to be modest and small celebrations if they are going to be celebrated in the first place.

Watchtower 9810/15
Whether they focus on this happy occasion in private, just as a couple, or they have a few relatives or close friends with them would be for them to decide. The occasion should not become a mere excuse for a large social gathering. On this occasion Christians would want to be guided by the principles that apply every day of their lives. So whether one takes note of a wedding anniversary or not is a personal matter

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not one but four witnesses at my door

by gerry in

having not had a witness knock on my door since i left over 13 years ago i was surprised a few sunday mornings ago to find two young sisters who i had not seen before at my door.

it was not long before their husbands who were witnessing at my neighbors joined the conversation.

the conversation went on for some time so i am keeping the experience as brief as i can.. mind you with all what has been happening lately with the australian royal commission here in australia i had been looking forward to having a discussion with any witness who comes within earshot.

Listener

That's great Gerry. That took a lot of courage, strange isn't it, you were there speaking truth to them yet it was still difficult to start with. They have back up, usually just one person but in your case, another three, so it's no wonder your heart was pounding.

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£1 million pound fine

by pepperheart in

hi a court in the uk in loughborough have fined the jws over £1 million pounds for the court costs for a child abuse case in loughborough in the east midlands..

Listener

The article reports -

Lord Justice Floyd said it was "fair just and reasonable" to order the church's governing body to pay compensation.

I agree Punkofnice when will the Governing Body get it?

It's more than the 'proper time' for them to make changes and to apologize to all those that have been damaged from their irresponsible policies.

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So Today Was My Wife's First Ever Birthday Party

by dubstepped in

she turned one today, and 36 earlier this week.

we planned a big party, big for two people that have never thrown a party before.

we rented a church fellowship hall because 1. it was nice and big and affordable and 2. it was kind of awesome to throw a party in a place we would have never ventured in our previous life.