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  Shunned by family

  by Ruth in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my fiancé is an ex-jehovah’s witness.

  when he was 18 years old, his 17 year old brother was killed in an accident.

  his parents having previously lost an infant daughter were understandably distraught and were therefore highly susceptible to an organisation which seemed to be able to supply definitive answers where more mainstream religion seemed to fail them..

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  I was hoping that I might be able to be a liaison between my fiancé’s mother and my fiancé, but having spoken to his mother this morning, I am not sure how welcome that will be. She said that I might be able to call her every six months or so and that it is all scripturally based

  You could continue to try to go down this track. There is no reason scripturally why she can't talk to you often. You have never been a JW and those rules do not apply to you. You could tactfully ask her about this, as well as expressing your desire to get to know her better
  
  
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  Keep the meeting going! (even if somebody's dying)

  by TimeBandit in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is a true story.

  it's about a sister named henriette venema.

  she was a very loyal jw.

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  That's a very sad story. Everything about this must have been a terrible shock for her husband, Max, it must have taken him a long time to get over that day, if ever.
  
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  Request For Awake 1946 3/27 page 16 - Explanation of 1Tim 6:15-16

  by Bobcat in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i am endeavoring to find a digital copy of the 1946 awake (consolation?

  ) issue 3/27 page 16.

  ("3/27" was how the wt pubs index had it.).

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  Listener

  Here's another link to JW publications provided by Atlantis

  http://avoidjw.org/magazines/
  
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  Morning Woship: Kenneth Flodin targets "apostates"

  by Sanchy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  video is entitled "beware of deceit" he uses the letter of jude to show that current day apostates are deceitful and that they use "trickery" to and "twist facts" to try to "grab our mind".

  warning: your head might explode.

  especially past the 5:30 mark.

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  Listener

  Another insincere comment made by Flodin was his attempt to have his audience believe that it was 'a sincere older lady' who had been deceived by an apostate. He basis his assumption on the 'scrawl' the letter was written in.
  
  All these assumptions were baseless. The idea that the person was sincere, that they were female and that they were old.
  
  You would think that he has seen Geoffrey Jacksons handwriting which looks very feminine and the writing of a much younger person.
  
  It's easy to conclude that he has said this to play on people's emotions.
  
  He provides absolutely no evidence that the letter even exists.
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  Jehovah’s Witnesses do not seek truth and prefer to follow their hearts...

  by garyneal in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it’s been a while since i posted some thoughts of mine concerning the jehovah’s witnesses and the watchtower babble and trash society.

  okay, i will be respectable and say it right, the watchtower bible and tract society.

  i do, however, think about the doctrines quite a bit as well as the overall doctrines from christianity in general.

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  Listener

  Garyneal, it would seem that JWs don't care too much about factual teachings. Some do and they seem to make some sort of sense out of it. However there is a point in time when their beliefs become emotionally based. I think this is perhaps what you mean by 'following their heart'.
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  I got my Bethel Application approved, I start in September

  by Quarterback in

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  2. friends

  well it took awhile.

  i've downsized.

  got rid of my bmw.

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  That does come as a surprise Quarterback.
  
  If you accept it will be a big adjustment for you both. For many Bethel is not what they expect. Many must love it because they stay so long.
  
  If your wife hasn't been working I would imagine that the change will be huge. To be honest I made that comment about a good husband respecting his wifes feelings because of the general attitude that JW men display. There's even a little section on this months Broadcast where the Malefants (I think) are being interviewed. Their appointment at Bethel was because they wanted his services, the wife was required to be supportive and accept anything they gave her. She explains that she was not looking forward to their appointment at Bethel and the job that she was given. She says she came to appreciate the loving association of the other Bro's and Sis's at Bethel. She made it sound like she really enjoyed the sanctuary of their little world (but never mentioned whether she had joy in the work she was assigned).
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  I got my Bethel Application approved, I start in September

  by Quarterback in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well it took awhile.

  i've downsized.

  got rid of my bmw.

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  For all those that still think Quarterback is being serious, he's not. As if he would take the job and put his wife to work in the laundry and for no pay. No decent husband would do that on purpose.

  Now that talk you've been assigned to give will require a list of the best websites to avoid and enough copies made to hand out to all those in attendance.
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  Dutch convention: disassociation in broader perspective

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  today at the utrecht international convention in holland there was no "word in spanish" about dissassociation.. "we avoid any contact with dissassociated witnesses.

  not only sinners, but in a broader perspective, also inactive witnesses".. there was a lot of noise in the hall direct after that moment.. so, no fading escape in the near future, i expect.. g..

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  They used to say 'disfellowshipped' and they were portraying Sonya as having been df'd a number of years ago, therefore they used the old term.
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  I got my Bethel Application approved, I start in September

  by Quarterback in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well it took awhile.

  i've downsized.

  got rid of my bmw.

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  Could you ask your wife to sew the seams on Anthony Morris' trousers in by a couple of inches, they're a little baggy at the moment.
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  Trolley cart "witnessing" is getting ridiculous

  by oppostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i really fail to see how much actual "witnessing" is occurring with the trolley carts.publishers, usually pioneers, just stand or sit there not engaging anyone and count their time.. the only thing i notice that it's accomplishing is brand exposure for jw.0rg so the public is exposed to the logo and literature/poster card headlines.. take for example this "evening" witnessing by a pioneer elder while on summer holiday/vacation.. .

  is this not a wth kinda moment when you consider the years of slaving, knocking on doors, business territory and bible studies we had to keep performing so we weren't branded a "weak" publisher?.

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  Listener

  Along with Stan Livedeath's suggestion, why don't they stick a sign at the front of their homes with the JW org logo and a picture of some literature with a bit inviting people to knock on their doors for some literature.

  They are so willing to invade other peoples privacy.

  They'll likely feel that they will be a target for retribution but what better way to satisfy their need for persecution.