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Doco..Isaiah 60 22 Work in Australia

by jaydee in

could be of interest to any australian 'budding historians', or propagandists .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcaajtu0488.

Listener

Thanks JD, it is an interesting video, put together in 2005 and goes through the early history of JWs in Australia.

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New "paradise" video preview? "Will you be there?"

by stuckinarut2 in

my wife (unstuck) just saw a new 2-3 min video in her ex jw facebook feed, depicting a "paradise" scene preview.. it was complete with aerial shots and slow motion montages, with moving music.. scriptures were quoted across the screen, such as rev 21:3,4. i shazamed the music, and it came from another "worldly" album called "world of dreams.future world music" (you should see the song titles from that album!).

is it an official wt video, or some private persons production?.

if it is official, they seem to have once again resorted to desperate emotional manipulation tactics..... anyone else know?

Listener

Wow, you guys are good.

I wonder how people will travel to those places in the future and it's amazing to see just a handful of humans in those beautiful places, I guess vacation time will be very limited.

When are we going to see a video imagining what it will be like in heaven?

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Another recorded Judicial Meeting...

by NikL in

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i've listened to quite a few but for some reason, this one has me really angry.. my heart goes out to the young family dealing with this bull shite.. give a listen.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifkpiqigq9c.

Listener

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/250255/proper-understanding-mediator-new-covenant

Looks like I've got a lot of interesting reading to do.

Thanks Crazyguy,

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Another recorded Judicial Meeting...

by NikL in

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i've listened to quite a few but for some reason, this one has me really angry.. my heart goes out to the young family dealing with this bull shite.. give a listen.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifkpiqigq9c.

Listener

Crazy guy, is your mediator document on the internet?

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Can you believe the opening song at the memorial tonight?!

by Indian Larry in

did anybody (who went to the memorial) notice the opening song?.

keep in mind that this is the most important night of the year for the witnesses.

it is supposed to be all about jesus christ.

Listener

If you think it was a tirade then you will have to ask Funchback.

Getting back on track, I did ask you a question which I was curious about. You claimed the following

JW Memorial is not just a memorial service for remembering Jesus death. It is also called "The Lord's Evening Meal" and hence includes remembering those who shared the final meal with Jesus Christ during his last night and those who are included in the covenant with Jesus.

I asked you if you could supply support for that idea from Watchtower publications? Since the organization only bases their practices on the Bible, would you happen to know which scriptures this idea is based on?

Since the Governing Body is included in the covenant, they are remembered constantly by the rank and file because the Governing Body keeps reminding them to do so.

Heres one quote from the Watchtower 15 June 09 that would suggest no special attention is to be given to them.

However, genuine anointed Christians do not demand special attention..... nor do they expect special treatment .

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Can you believe the opening song at the memorial tonight?!

by Indian Larry in

did anybody (who went to the memorial) notice the opening song?.

keep in mind that this is the most important night of the year for the witnesses.

it is supposed to be all about jesus christ.

Listener

DrearyWeather are you a JW?

Again, you are taking what Funchback said out of context. You are trying to twist his words into saying something that he did not. Look a little closer

and also help slaughter billions, including you and your family (since you are here associating with us condemned apostates),

He has simply put you in the same category of condemnation by the Watchtower organization that all us so called 'apostates' are, including our own families and himself personally. He has not attacked you anymore than we ourselves are attacked by the organization. He did not claim that this would happen to you and your family, that is just Watchtowers view.

But it has drawn out a point of view from you that is important.

It is not polite or respectful to speak about the slaughtering of one's family

This is the very thing that JWs do when they call from house to house and leave their literature which explicitly makes that claim.

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Can you believe the opening song at the memorial tonight?!

by Indian Larry in

did anybody (who went to the memorial) notice the opening song?.

keep in mind that this is the most important night of the year for the witnesses.

it is supposed to be all about jesus christ.

Listener

Dreary Weather, put into context what Funchback said

OK, then. Just don't ask them to carry a mic, among many other things they can't do on earth as JWs. Sure, they're good enough to co-rule with this Christ character and also help slaughter billions, including you and your family (since you are here associating with us condemned apostates), but they are unqualified to say an opening prayer.

It sounds like you find this statement to be extreme and hurtful yet many of us read these types of comments through the pages of Watchtower publications. Yet I doubt Funchback is condemning you to this catastrophe but simply pointing out using "Watchtower" reasoning what they claim your fate is and possibly that of some of your family members.

Insight sanctification - Because of the ‘merit’ of the believer, the young children of the union are considered holy, under divine care and protection—not unclean as are children who do not have even one believing parentWatchtower 71 1/15 At 1 Corinthians 7:14 the Bible shows that God can consider as “holy” the minor children of a Christian parent. Though they are young and not yet to the point of being personally responsible to Jehovah, their parent is trying to develop in them a love of God and of the way of righteousness. It seems clear that at the time of the destructive war of Armageddon God will preserve them on the basis of the family merit of the Christian parent, even though the children are not yet dedicated and baptized.

"Only Jehovah's Witnesses, those of the anointed remnant and the "great crowd," as a united organization under the protection of the Supreme Organizer, have any Scriptural hope of surviving the impending end of this doomed system dominated by Satan the Devil." Watchtower 1989 Sep 1 p.19
"In effect, Jesus also conveys Jehovah’s voice to us as he directs the congregation through “the faithful and discreet slave.” (Matt. 24:45) We need to take this guidance and direction seriously, for our everlasting life depends on our obedience." Watchtower 2014 Aug 15 p.21
"There are billions of people who do not know Jehovah. Many of them in ignorance practice things that God's Word shows to be wicked. If they persist in this course, they will be among those who perish during the great tribulation." Watchtower 1993 Oct 1 p.19

Why on earth is it acceptable for the Watchtower to comment on the fate of us and our family and yet not acceptable for someone to point out those exact claims that they have made in a hypothetical manner?

It is interesting how you find Funchbacks comments to be extreme, do you think it would be prudent of the Watchtower to be more mature, discreet, respectful and polite when people choose not to obey their instructions?

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Potential New Article for JWFacts: Iglesia Ni Cristo

by ILoveTTATT2 in

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paul has allowed me to write up two articles for jwfacts: iglesia ni cristo, and why russell was not a mason.here is my iglesia ni cristo article.

“we believe that there is only one true god, the father, and no one else besides him”.

thus, faith alone is not enough.. about baptism.

Listener

That's a good comparison. The only statement that I can see that is not correct is that both disfellowship for marrying a non believer. The JWs do not do this as a practice and will (generally) only mark an individual for dating a non believer.

You may want to include how they are funded.

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The GB wants us to read this bible passage to you!

by StephaneLaliberte in

i had a brother visit me yesterday to invite me to the memorial.

as usual, despite the unspoken passive aggressiveness, i was polite,.

anyway, this year, he started his presentation by saying: "the governing body (gb) wants us to read this bible passage to you!

Listener

When they talk about love in their letters, don't they usually qualify it but saying 'brotherly love. It sounds really creepy when they say they love you, most blokes rarely say those words and when they do, it is only to close family members or very close friends whom they've developed a special personal relationship with. By missing the term, it cheapens the sincerity of those words.

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Can you believe the opening song at the memorial tonight?!

by Indian Larry in

did anybody (who went to the memorial) notice the opening song?.

keep in mind that this is the most important night of the year for the witnesses.

it is supposed to be all about jesus christ.

Listener

Spot on Sparrowdown.