There is a female JW who discusses this with 2 Elders (who think they are big wigs, they both claim to have known Ray Franz and what went on, even discrediting him for being willing to 'take into his fold'?? a disfellowshipped drunkard who had previously done many good things for the org).
You won't believe the discussion but they are not interested as to whether it was stolen or not. They suggest that the song may have been written by a JW and stolen by Epica. This lady gets in to trouble for having the Album or copy of the Album cover in her home because it is Satanic. The hypocrites but even worse, they tell her to stay with the organization even if it doesn't have God's Holy Spirit backing it, purely because it's still God's organization.
The recording was just posted today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SXl8O2jO7A&t=2s
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Last song at Regional Convention of 2016 was stolen from Audiomachine
by LevelThePlayingField inas far as i know, i did a search, and you may not know this but, the last song play during a music video of the regional convention, was not of watchtower.
it's stolen from a group called audiomachine off their album epica.
the song is called eternal flame and it is exactly and i mean, note for note the same as the music video.
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Outcome - Banned in Russia - Final
by OrphanCrow ini just watched the live feed from the russian court room and followed the updates on the russian exjw forum.. just waiting for confirmation from other sources...but, it looks like the final (and expected) result is:.
banned.
which means that the wts property in russia now belongs to the russian state..
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The testimony of ex JWs did not help their cause. The following was reported
Also in the course of the trial the court heard testimony of several former members of the organization, who declared that "total control" was established over devotees.
A witness from St. Petersburg, Natalia Koretskaia, who was a member of the organization from 1995 to 209, described how its members "live in complete total control of devotees by the Administrative Center."
Jehovah's Witnesses formally follow a canonical observance of rules, but in reality the issue is the total control of the personal life of a person, his intimate life, education, and job," the witness said.
Another former member of the organization, Pavel Zverev, declared that because of the leadership of the Jehovah's Witnesses he was left without higher education.
"In the organization it is considered that getting higher education is not useful for the interests of the organization. As a result of this conviction, I remained without education and I have suffered from this in my career," Zverev said.http://www2.stetson.edu/~psteeves/relnews/170420d.html
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Marc & Cora on YouTube causing unnecessary divisions
by jambon1 inwhat is it with this pair?
why do they have to constantly have a bitch about guys like john cedars?
a very recent video of them shows them calling him a 'village idiot' and making other disparaging claims.
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Thanks Wannaexit.
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Marc & Cora on YouTube causing unnecessary divisions
by jambon1 inwhat is it with this pair?
why do they have to constantly have a bitch about guys like john cedars?
a very recent video of them shows them calling him a 'village idiot' and making other disparaging claims.
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Does anyone know where Cedars apology is for the recent chart he made?
As for his past, he basically declared war between himself as an atheist and ex JW Christians activists. This blog of his shows just how nasty he can get.
http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/the-trouble-with-apostates-and-why-it-shouldnt-put-you-off-being-one
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Doco..Isaiah 60 22 Work in Australia
by jaydee incould be of interest to any australian 'budding historians', or propagandists .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcaajtu0488.
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Thanks JD, it is an interesting video, put together in 2005 and goes through the early history of JWs in Australia.
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New "paradise" video preview? "Will you be there?"
by stuckinarut2 inmy wife (unstuck) just saw a new 2-3 min video in her ex jw facebook feed, depicting a "paradise" scene preview.. it was complete with aerial shots and slow motion montages, with moving music.. scriptures were quoted across the screen, such as rev 21:3,4. i shazamed the music, and it came from another "worldly" album called "world of dreams.future world music" (you should see the song titles from that album!).
is it an official wt video, or some private persons production?.
if it is official, they seem to have once again resorted to desperate emotional manipulation tactics..... anyone else know?
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Wow, you guys are good.
I wonder how people will travel to those places in the future and it's amazing to see just a handful of humans in those beautiful places, I guess vacation time will be very limited.
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Another recorded Judicial Meeting...
by NikL ini've listened to quite a few but for some reason, this one has me really angry.. my heart goes out to the young family dealing with this bull shite.. give a listen.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifkpiqigq9c.
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https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/250255/proper-understanding-mediator-new-covenant
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Another recorded Judicial Meeting...
by NikL ini've listened to quite a few but for some reason, this one has me really angry.. my heart goes out to the young family dealing with this bull shite.. give a listen.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifkpiqigq9c.
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Crazy guy, is your mediator document on the internet?
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Can you believe the opening song at the memorial tonight?!
by Indian Larry indid anybody (who went to the memorial) notice the opening song?.
keep in mind that this is the most important night of the year for the witnesses.
it is supposed to be all about jesus christ.
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If you think it was a tirade then you will have to ask Funchback.
Getting back on track, I did ask you a question which I was curious about. You claimed the followingJW Memorial is not just a memorial service for remembering Jesus death. It is also called "The Lord's Evening Meal" and hence includes remembering those who shared the final meal with Jesus Christ during his last night and those who are included in the covenant with Jesus.
I asked you if you could supply support for that idea from Watchtower publications? Since the organization only bases their practices on the Bible, would you happen to know which scriptures this idea is based on?
Since the Governing Body is included in the covenant, they are remembered constantly by the rank and file because the Governing Body keeps reminding them to do so.
Heres one quote from the Watchtower 15 June 09 that would suggest no special attention is to be given to them.However, genuine anointed Christians do not demand special attention..... nor do they expect special treatment .
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Can you believe the opening song at the memorial tonight?!
by Indian Larry indid anybody (who went to the memorial) notice the opening song?.
keep in mind that this is the most important night of the year for the witnesses.
it is supposed to be all about jesus christ.
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DrearyWeather are you a JW?
Again, you are taking what Funchback said out of context. You are trying to twist his words into saying something that he did not. Look a little closerand also help slaughter billions, including you and your family (since you are here associating with us condemned apostates),
He has simply put you in the same category of condemnation by the Watchtower organization that all us so called 'apostates' are, including our own families and himself personally. He has not attacked you anymore than we ourselves are attacked by the organization. He did not claim that this would happen to you and your family, that is just Watchtowers view.
But it has drawn out a point of view from you that is important.It is not polite or respectful to speak about the slaughtering of one's family
This is the very thing that JWs do when they call from house to house and leave their literature which explicitly makes that claim.