Looking at the first photo in the OP, it doesn't look very dignified or discreet.
One of the Asian ladies is pictured arm in arm with Lett which I suppose, if they personally know each other would be a different matter. It's obviously fine with him to have it plastered on the internet But the thumbs up from this lady has got me laughing, he probably didn't see her do that but they're not doing a great job in making the r&f more respectful of their great leaders.
Poor Lett, he comes off as being so gullible and this photo highlights that.
His 40+ year old tie and pocket square is so cutesy.
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Introducing Our Rockstar Governing Body
by pale.emperor inisnt nice to see the governing body being so humble, meek and not seeking their own importance?.
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stash: /intesoft-inc.appspot.com/post/005df9f7e68e40cb9b013248fe7b670c.html
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The great tribulation is now coming VERY soon!
by The Searcher inwatchtower october 2017, par 11, page 28 - "very soon the political powers of satan’s world will form a coalition that is bent on the destruction of god’s people.
's] have anything to fear?
not at all!........at that critical moment during the great tribulation, the angelic soldiers of jehovah of armies will come together to protect god’s people..."[j.w.
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I hope not I`m looking forward to celebrating my birthday on Wednesday without any hassles of a Great Tribulation interferring with it.If you dont mind.
The Governing Body has plenty of forward planning activities including the new, you beaut, UK Bethel/Retirement home/underground bunker. Wednesdays birthday is looking good.
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Gog of Magog - Watchtower says it has two identities
by Listener inthe searcher started a topic addressing the gt, a comment from sparrowdown asked an interesting question -.
"...the political powers of satan's world will form a coalition..."that's the statement that interests me.
what are they alluding to?.
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The Searcher started a topic addressing the GT, a comment from Sparrowdown asked an interesting question -
"...the political powers of satan's world will form a coalition..."
That's the statement that interests me. What are they alluding to?When we compare all these Scriptural references about the final attack on God’s people, it becomes evident that the name Gog of Magog refers, not to Satan, but to a coalition of nations. W 15
I thought I would do some research after seeing Sparrodown's question and although I cannot answer it, I noticed that they are now teaching that there are two future Gog's of Magog.
The first exists during the GT and is the Coalition of nations that attack God's people as mentioned in the quote above. The article also explains that this coalition has murderous intentions towards God's people.
They are guessing that this coalition will be lead by the King of the North but it's only a guess. Regardless, they will be destroyed during the GT.
Their is another mention of Gog of Magog at Revelation 20:8. They are claiming that this is a different Gog of Magog (a second Gog of Magog). This one has the same 'murderous attitude as the original Gog of Magog. Those with this 'murderous attitude' are humans and exist during the testing period at the end of the 1.000 year rule of Christ and will also be destroyed.But who is referred to as “Gog and Magog” at Revelation 20:8? During the final test at the end of the 1,000 years, those who rebel against Jehovah will manifest the same murderous attitude as ‘Gog of Magog,’ those nations that attack God’s people at the end of the great tribulation. And the outcome for both groups will be exactly the same—everlasting death! (Rev. 19:20, 21; 20:9) It seems fitting, then, that all those rebels at the end of the Millennium be called “Gog and Magog.”W 2015
For further evidence of there now being two Gog's of Magog in JW teaching, the two charts in the 2015 Watchtower shows them clearly, one during the GT and one at the end of the 1,000 years.What's even weirder is that they are assuming that the first Gog of Magog is not Satan based on the idea that the second Gog of Magog not being Satan
We are told that at the end of the 1,000 years, Satan will be released from the abyss, and “he will go out to mislead those nations in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together for the war.” (Rev. 20:8) But how can Satan mislead Gog if he himself is Gog? Therefore, “Gog” does not refer to Satan in either Ezekiel’s prophecy or the book of Revelation. W 2015
At least with the old light when Gog of Magog was believed to be Satan, it was easier to understand as he was not destroyed during the GT, only sent to the abyss and later released at the end of the 1,000 years to be finally destroyed. Since they changed it's identity they needed to create two future Gog's of Magog and decided that neither one was Satan.
They're 'new light' or new interpretations are even more confusing and makes less sense than their 'old light'. But it's funny that they can identify these two future groups representing Gog of Magog but now have no idea who the King of the North is.
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The "faithful slave" urges confession in latest Watchtower!
by The Searcher inwatchtower october 2017, page 11, par.
17 - confess and abandon secret sins.
some christians who have committed a serious sin try to cover it over in order to avoid embarrassing themselves or disappointing others.
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Genuine love moves Christians who have committed serious sins to speak [confess] to the elders.....
Where is the dividing line between a serious sin and not so serious sin and why should only serious sins be told to Elders? There is no biblical requirement to confess to Elders. Since they try to base it on some 'pulled out of the hat' biblical principles then I applied equally to minor sins as well as major sins.
Personally, I always thought that if I had done something bad to another person I should be seeking their forgiveness, going to a confessional or third party was unlikely to achieve anything.
This arrangement gives the Elders power and a level of importance, making their positions more enviable.
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My Younger Brother Has Left The Witnesses!! :-D
by pale.emperor inabsolutely thrilled to give you the news that my younger brother, a zealous full-time pioneer has left the witnesses!!.
i haven't seen or spoke to him in a year.
i'd lost all contact with him, no facebook, no mobile number, i didn't even know his address because he'd moved house.
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That's great news Pale Emperor. It's great that he has someone close to him that he can express himself with and who understands what he is going through.
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Going "Hollywood" not helping!
by eyeuse2badub ingoing “hollywood” hasn’t seemed to help build any enthusiasm for the wtbts.
think about it, jw’s now have their own studio to make videos and cartoons.
the ‘kingdom’ dirges (songs) have received a makeover to a bit more modern tunes.
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During a monthly Broadcast, Morris the Third boasted about how one child thought h as Caleb's grandfather.
This reminds me of their hatred of parents encouraging the idea of Santa Claus and written about in a 2010 Awake
What the Bible says: “Now that you have put away falsehood, speak truth each one of you with his neighbor.” Our closest ‘neighbors’ are our family members. (Ephesians 4:25) The Bible also says that we should “love truth,” “speaking the truth in [our] heart.” (Zechariah 8:19; Psalm 15:2) True, telling children that Santa (or the Christ child) is the bearer of presents at Christmas may seem to be innocent fun, but is it right or wise to deceive little children, even if one’s intentions are not bad? Do you not find it ironic that an occasion that is supposedly meant to honor Jesus becomes a time to deceive children?
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William Malenfant's appalling hate speech - latest morning worship video
by doubtfull1799 inso he tries to prove that we are living in the last days without any evidence, but instead a series of unsubstantiated assertions ("never has there been a time with so much lack love and affection").
and uses things that are not even part of the so-called "sign" (abortions, pollution).
then proceeds to ridicule the "ridiculers," stereotype them, and declare they are only fit for destruction!.
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In general we have become more accepting and understanding of people with various backgrounds. This includes religion, race and disabilities.
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The denial of 1975 when and how did they go about it.
by Crazyguy ini was pretty young in 1975, all i remember was a few complaining at the hall after and those at the door that razed us over it.
does anyone remember how they went about denying it and when this started.
i do remember a scripture in psalms about people being mighty and living longer so this was used.
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I was young and living in Melbourne at the time. All JWs in Melbourne were called to a special meeting at short notice early in 1975.
This is my recollection about it. There were some Americans from HQ giving us this important message, I can't remember who. We were told that there were some who were of the mistaken belief that Armageddon was to come by September/October of that year and those at Bethel felt it was necessary to tell us that this thinking was incorrect and how good it was of them to tell us beforehand, obviously they could never be accused of being false prophets because of this pre-emptive action. Also, it was the wise and smart ones who always understood what this 6,000 years was all about in the first place. They went in depth about this calculation, particularly how we didn't know when Eve was created.
The best spin of all was about saying it was only the weak ones who were letting this stumble them, falsely accusing us of being false prophets, these people were labelled as apostates' and to be kept far away from. Therefore it was inappropriate even to talk about this issue amongst themselves. The matter had been cleared up at the very meeting we were attending so there was absolutely no need for any further discussion.
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There is Repunzelsawake on Youtube, she's a knowledgeable lady about all things JW.
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Witnessing to two JW elders
by Roger Kirkpatrick ini was approached by two jehovah’s witness elders who handed me a pamphlet advertising the jw .org website.
each man carried a bible and an apple ipad.
they told me that they enjoyed visiting with people about the bible, and asked if i was a bible reader.
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That was excellent Roger.
That's fine if they didn't have a response to your points there and then but if they were really genuine they would have no problem saying that they would get back to you and when they did get back, they'd have a reasonable explanation. The Watchtower has written book after book after book, for over 100 years, the answer has got to be somewhere.
The points regarding the Sanctuary is not new to the Watchtower but they still haven't taken the time to explain why they are right. As regards the point about the GC being 'spirit begotten sons' due to their being in the sanctuary, I hadn't heard that before so appreciate you mentioning it.