Posts by Listener

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Cart witnessing at the Toyota Grand Prix

by Dagney in

jw
friends

picture 185,000 people on the streets attending the biggest event in long beach.

there is a main downtown street which is the only way into the grand prix.

it’s chaos because it is not private property that can be contained; these are working boulevards with cars and people vying to get where they want to go.

Listener

They believe 'honest hearted ones' will find them. It sounds like predestination to me. But why bother with the preaching work when, if this was true, someone could simply stumble across their website or walk into a KH.

All they need to do is wear an open back pack with a JW org sign and 'Please take a brochure or ask me for a bible study' and they would get plenty of time to record. If they were working, they could include all that time. Their employer might not like it but if it was part of their worship they could probably get away with it. Going to college wouldn't be a problem since it would all be witnessing time. Even spending time shopping could be included. Even going on holidays could become a golden oportunity to witness, that cruise could prov to be very fruitful.

There would be a double benefit. It would encourage the JW to be on his best behaviour, knowing that with his sign, he would always be representing the organization. He's going to think twice before he flirts with someone other than his spouse or any other bad behaviours. That little back pack will be a constant reminder.

They would really stand out in public, a bright orange colour might be the go. It doesn't have to b a back pack, it could be some modified head gear or a shoulder bag, even a wide tie.

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Need some encouragemant

by LogansRun in

jw
friends

its been awhile since i've commented but i come by and read your posts about once a week.

so why do i need a pep talk ?

after almost 2 years into my fade these bastards won't give it a rest constant hang ups on my answering machine and today for the first time in about 6 months they come to my apartment complex but thankfully couldn't get in they did keep buzzing me so they were here looking for me.

Listener

Don't speak to them and don't let them visit. If they do manage to contact you, tell them to stop bothering you.

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Another marriage bites the dust ...

by EdenOne in

... and this time it was mine.. mrs. eden decided to part ways and leave home, and so our 25 year long partnership is now dissolving.

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just another colateral damage in a long list of colateral damages from being raised in the "truth".

Listener

Sorry to hear that EdenOne and all strength to you as you move on. I hope your son is doing okay.

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WT rules about forgiving a cheating mate

by Addison0998 in

i hate the rule about if your mate cheats on you, and you have sex with them, you are not free to remarry because the sex means you forgave them and keeps you stuck with them!

i personally disagree and think it’s so controlling that they think they can dictate what goes on behind closed doors between two consenting, legally married married people.

and that they think they have the right to label what other people’s sex means.

Listener

They changed the definition of adultery so that it included more than intercourse. It was extended to include the manipulation of another persons sexual organs other than their marriage mate. According to them, the females breasts are not a sexual organ.

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Publisher ID: leaked video clip 2 of 4

by Fay Dehr in

"if you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—for ever.” ― george orwell, 1984 this video is leaked in interest of human dignity; you deserve to know who is keeping personal data and how they plan to expand their nets.

open to your comments... https://youtu.be/xz1arhu0fg0

[videos 1 to 4 leaked as own posts, with specific comments for each video].

Listener

This video was made sometime before Sept. 2017, which is the date they said they would start the first phase with a completion time of eight months.

It could be possible that the video was released by the org. Us apostates provide valuable feedback to the organisation, it's free and insightful.

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Publisher ID: leaked video clip 2 of 4

by Fay Dehr in

"if you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—for ever.” ― george orwell, 1984 this video is leaked in interest of human dignity; you deserve to know who is keeping personal data and how they plan to expand their nets.

open to your comments... https://youtu.be/xz1arhu0fg0

[videos 1 to 4 leaked as own posts, with specific comments for each video].

Listener

I wouldn't be surprised if they intended to share this wonderful new initiative with everyone at the next Annual Meeting.

Just think, they'll have a record of every anointed member, they'll be able to identify them by name for the first time ever.

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Publisher ID: leaked video clip 2 of 4

by Fay Dehr in

"if you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—for ever.” ― george orwell, 1984 this video is leaked in interest of human dignity; you deserve to know who is keeping personal data and how they plan to expand their nets.

open to your comments... https://youtu.be/xz1arhu0fg0

[videos 1 to 4 leaked as own posts, with specific comments for each video].

Listener

As indicated in the video, they are working with the various Depts. at HQ to determine how best they can take advantage of this database.

Publishers information will be viewable by who knows how many people. They can't even stop videos from leaking these days.

Application forms can be lodged online through the publishers ID. These applications require very personal information, including their physical, mental and financial details. These forms, when completed by Elders also rate individuals on their 'spiritual' level.

Last year in Australia, the Branch Office sent out a request to Elders asking them to provide details of publishers that may be of use to them in providing professional assistance such as lawyers and accountants. The Privacy Act requires that if information about an individual is to be shared then the individual must be made aware of it and permission sought. The request the Branch gave to Elders did not direct them to do this.

These men are not to be trusted.

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Publisher ID: leaked video clip 2 of 4

by Fay Dehr in

"if you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—for ever.” ― george orwell, 1984 this video is leaked in interest of human dignity; you deserve to know who is keeping personal data and how they plan to expand their nets.

open to your comments... https://youtu.be/xz1arhu0fg0

[videos 1 to 4 leaked as own posts, with specific comments for each video].

Listener

They plan to have an ID for every publisher but not every publisher will be able to login to their own information.

Those that can log in to their publisher record will be able to change some of their info. such as their name, address and dob. There will be info. that they cannot change. What this info is will be interesting and also whether those with login access can even view it.

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April 2018 Broadcast - normal weird stuff

by Listener in

we hear a story regarding the life of thomas and emma.

she states that "when thomas and i first learnt that i was pregnant, we were both really shocked" she doesn't explain why they were both really shocked but it seems an odd reaction unless they were using the safest contraception invented or hadn't been told about the bird and the bees.two experiences that touched the heart of gb sanderson were as follows -.

in russia a jw was jailed for 6 months, the jailers did everything to try to undermine his faith, which included violence.

Listener

"Kind of in shock about it" is very different than being "Really Shocked". Anyway, it was how it came across on the video as well, how it was expressed and without any explanation. That's okay, you see things differently than I do and (to me) Dozy's reasoning makes a lot of sense. But to be more specific, it makes a lot of sense when you understand the weird views that JWs can sometimes hold.

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April 2018 Broadcast - normal weird stuff

by Listener in

we hear a story regarding the life of thomas and emma.

she states that "when thomas and i first learnt that i was pregnant, we were both really shocked" she doesn't explain why they were both really shocked but it seems an odd reaction unless they were using the safest contraception invented or hadn't been told about the bird and the bees.two experiences that touched the heart of gb sanderson were as follows -.

in russia a jw was jailed for 6 months, the jailers did everything to try to undermine his faith, which included violence.

Listener

Dreary Weather, I don't recall anyone making the statement on this forum (or in practice) without explaining why it came as a shock. The way it came across on the video was odd because of that.

The thoughts that Dozy expressed is what came to mind but as I haven't associated with a group of JWs for many years I wasn't sure.

I left the organization in the 80s and the change in attitudes amongst many JWs in deciding not to have children after that time took me by surprise and to some degree, disappointment. It also brought home just how cultish their way of thinking is.