They are masters of spin. If they say it's time for the hailstone message and nothing happens they'll just say that there's a 'pause'. They did this with the Great Tribulation when they were teaching that it had begun in 1914.
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Some thoughts on the message of doom
by JeffT inone of the recent threads on the talk about the hailstone message got me to thinking.
the problem with putting out a message like that is what to do when nothing happens.
i have to think that somebody will be asking that question.
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Broadcasting august, clown Lett about painting the K-hall
by Gorbatchov indid you see the performance of stephen lett on august broadcasting?.
the illustration of painting the kingdom hall?.
used for explaining that you have to listen to elders even when they are totaly wrong?.
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Even though Lett said the example was exaggerated, I doubt that it is. There was a BOE letter not so long ago that was explicit about Kingdom Hall maintenance and the Elders are required to seek approval of so many things.
Since the colour of the Hall, as well as the standard of the paint job is going to affect its resell value, it wouldn't surprise me if even the Elders don't have a say in either the colour or how it is going to be applied.
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Stuart imprisoned,tried and restricted.
by amicabl infor the last month or so i have been watching all of stuart’s xjdub videos on youtube.. thanks to local congo’s of jws he has now been arrested and apparently mistreated and had actually quite weird restrictions placed on him to keep him away from carts, khs etc., by a court in vancouver.. he was out it would seem the next day carrying on his “ministry”.
and successfully too.. i know his activities could be considered a little extreme at times, but i have felt encouraged by him and i wondered if anyone has any information on the whole situation..
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFN5jecrkHk&t=7s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz-7JP_ACvMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz-7JP_ACvM
Stuart is not you typical cart activist but like all of them, he is passionate. He's been trying to keep within the laws, especially since the Police have been ramping up their actions against him. However, it appears that he has been thinking that the day would come when he was arrested and will face court and will take the opportunity to do more activism even though the forces are against him.
He is in Vancouver, British Columbia.
There will be a number that say he has gone too far and can see why the Police arrested him. The JWs have been claiming harassment amongst who knows what else but it does include "interuption". I think the Police have been having a hard time to decide what criminal charges they can make against him.
If they do charge him with (criminal) harrassment then I would like to see the JWs explain themselves when they requested that he attend a JC at the Kingdom Hall. He had already been carrying out his activism for some time and if he was really criminally harrassing him then why would they invite him into their Kingdom Hall, not to discuss the action they would take against him if he didn't stop his activism but for a JC.
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Here is what silly looks like
by Sour Grapes infor shits and grins, i looked at an online sunday meeting a few days ago on youtube.
i was in disbelieve on just how silly everything looks with the watchtower reader reading from his little iphone and the watchtower conductor holding up his iphone to ask the questions.
then the conductor asked the reader to read a bible verse and of course, he reads from his little phone.
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The sacred book is now the sacred e-book but I guess they were once scrolls.
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First time
by Deke ingood evening all, this is my first time posting.. been reading and following for two years.
my story will come soon.... but i want to say to all, thanks for all the meaningful, intellectual, honest, and insightful words!!
it’s been an interesting 48 years of service to an organization!
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Welcome Deke, I'm looking forward to hearing more from you.
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Watchtower sign was illegal
by jaydee in.
http://www.brooklyneagle.com/articles/2018/8/8/watchtower-sign-was-illegal-buildings-department-says.
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They were very proud that they could inform the public of the time and the temperature.
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wizard of Oz JW style
by Kevin McFree ina one year special episode for watchtower to enjoy watching this week ;).
https://youtu.be/1fx3vrkvaci.
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Little Gems From the November 2018 Study Watchtower
by The Fall Guy inquickly glanced through it and noticed these bits of "food at the proper time.
i'll leave the lap-dancing comment on page 25, par.
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Thanks for sharing the highlights from the Watchtower The Fall Guy.
Page 21, par. 13 - “The faithful and discreet slave” does not exercise control over the thoughts of individuals, and neither do the elders.
I was flabbergasted that they wrote this since it's very much what they are trying to do. They want the JW to think that their thoughts are their own and not dictated by the organization. This again just comes down to controlling their thoughts by trying to suggest that they don't do it.
They are being bombarded with comments from ex JWs and observers, tellingg them that they are in a controlling cult and all the FDS can come up with is to tell the JWs that they aren't controlling them, without anything to support this position.
This is supported by the previous comment that you wrote from the article.Page 18, par. 1 - “Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me, because you think, not God’s thoughts, but those of men.” (Matt. 16:21-23)
So JW's have not to think about the thoughts of (8) men????????
They will not acknowledge that often times it is their thoughts (mens) that are being put forward through their publications. One just has to read any Watchtower to see how they continually speculate about things and make suggestions as to how the individual should view things. They are outside and additional to what is written in the Bible.
Once again, they are suggesting that their words are the words of God, their information is coming from God, not men's and not of this world under the influence of Satan.
If they want to play that game then since our imperfection is born from Satan then anytime they err, it is not from God but from Satan. Therefore their 'old light' and their damaging policies are from Satan, not God.Page 31, QFR - Jesus counseled his apostles not to seek a position of prominence among their fellow believers
So he did. Then why does the GB print their life stories in the pages of the Watchtower and why do they publish photo's of themselves? Why do they televise themselves before 8 million followers even though their quality as speakers is extremely poor? There must be hundreds a JWs who are much better speakers than them and there must be thousands, if not millions of JWs who could stand before a camera, reading a script verbatim as well as them. Amusingly, they even read sectioons of the Bible for their online audio version. -
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Hey, Has Anyone Seen This Yet?
by HiddlesWife inhttps://youtu.be/prnudaftnwe.
i was told that the borg posted this as an ad (psa, perhaps?
) on national tv here in the usa.. any thoughts?.
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It's been suggested in the past that the org. prepares these in the hope that some station picks it up as a Public Service Announcement and televises it for free, just like they do with newspaper articles regarding conventions.
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EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: Angus Stewart QC on Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Australian Child Abuse Royal Commission (by Lara Kaput and Louise Goode)
by jwleaks inangus stewart qc, senior counsel, has had a long and distinguished legal career, beginning with his passion for justice in south africa, fighting apartheid, then later working in the truth and reconciliation commission, and more recently acting as senior counsel in the case studies on jehovah's witnesses in the australian royal commission into institutional responses to child sexual abuse.
angus discusses, from his own personal point of view, and not representing the carc or the commissioners, what the journey was like, learning about the internal law and policy of watchtower society, how he became determined to stand for justice for all the victims and for the whole community of ex jehovah's witnesses and how he felt about the evidence being presented to him and the people presenting it.. interview by lara kaput and louise goode for jw community podcast.. https://jwcommunitypodcast.simplecast.fm/cf4d380d.
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Zeb, if listening to it is stressful for you then you are being sensible by not watching it. Sorry to hear that you are going through a difficult time and I hope matters improve.
Please be assured that none of the three individuals on the broadcast treat the matter in a flippant way.