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  Branch Co-ordinators letter re the Australian Royal Commission

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this letter was posted on the aust and nz facebook group this week.. it is self explanatory!

  wow.... it seems to be their attempt at controlling the situation after the arc fallout.. .

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  Anders Anderson found a copy of it on the ARC website.
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  Branch Co-ordinators letter re the Australian Royal Commission

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this letter was posted on the aust and nz facebook group this week.. it is self explanatory!

  wow.... it seems to be their attempt at controlling the situation after the arc fallout.. .

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  These men are sick to their core. He claims that letters may be given to the Commission before they get the chance to do it. He accuses the leaking of letters as being done by apostate opposers.

  The thing is, there were a number of abuse victims that were helping the Commission, yet O'Brien has disgustingly labelled them as apostate opposers.

  There is no helping this sick organization.
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  Branch Co-ordinators letter re the Australian Royal Commission

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this letter was posted on the aust and nz facebook group this week.. it is self explanatory!

  wow.... it seems to be their attempt at controlling the situation after the arc fallout.. .

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  It looks genuine to me but the question is, how did such a sensitive document get leaked?
  
  This wouldn't be a letter, it would have to be an email and that's why there's no letter head.
  
  Notice the dates -

  O'Brien, head of the Australasia Branch Committee sent it to NY on 27th July, 2016

  NY Co-ordinators committee responded on the 3rd and 4th August, 2016
  
  A letter and response by mail would not be so quick.
  
  
  
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  Branch Co-ordinators letter re the Australian Royal Commission

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this letter was posted on the aust and nz facebook group this week.. it is self explanatory!

  wow.... it seems to be their attempt at controlling the situation after the arc fallout.. .

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  The attitude is appalling and in no way reflects a loving and caring organization.
  
  Terry O'Brien was making a plea to the GB/HQ to help make it appear that they were co-operating with the Commission. He was offering his opinion but had to make it clear that regardless of whether he was right or not, he would accept any commands from HQ. He did not even attempt to put forward suggestions as to how they could further improve the organizations policies in dealing with child abuse accusations.
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  Some thoughts on the message of doom

  by JeffT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  one of the recent threads on the talk about the hailstone message got me to thinking.

  the problem with putting out a message like that is what to do when nothing happens.

  i have to think that somebody will be asking that question.

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  They are masters of spin. If they say it's time for the hailstone message and nothing happens they'll just say that there's a 'pause'. They did this with the Great Tribulation when they were teaching that it had begun in 1914.
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  Broadcasting august, clown Lett about painting the K-hall

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  did you see the performance of stephen lett on august broadcasting?.

  the illustration of painting the kingdom hall?.

  used for explaining that you have to listen to elders even when they are totaly wrong?.

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  Even though Lett said the example was exaggerated, I doubt that it is. There was a BOE letter not so long ago that was explicit about Kingdom Hall maintenance and the Elders are required to seek approval of so many things.

  Since the colour of the Hall, as well as the standard of the paint job is going to affect its resell value, it wouldn't surprise me if even the Elders don't have a say in either the colour or how it is going to be applied.
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  Stuart imprisoned,tried and restricted.

  by amicabl in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  for the last month or so i have been watching all of stuart’s xjdub videos on youtube.. thanks to local congo’s of jws he has now been arrested and apparently mistreated and had actually quite weird restrictions placed on him to keep him away from carts, khs etc., by a court in vancouver.. he was out it would seem the next day carrying on his “ministry”.

  and successfully too.. i know his activities could be considered a little extreme at times, but i have felt encouraged by him and i wondered if anyone has any information on the whole situation..

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFN5jecrkHk&t=7s
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz-7JP_ACvM

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz-7JP_ACvM

  Stuart is not you typical cart activist but like all of them, he is passionate. He's been trying to keep within the laws, especially since the Police have been ramping up their actions against him. However, it appears that he has been thinking that the day would come when he was arrested and will face court and will take the opportunity to do more activism even though the forces are against him.
  
  He is in Vancouver, British Columbia.
  
  There will be a number that say he has gone too far and can see why the Police arrested him. The JWs have been claiming harassment amongst who knows what else but it does include "interuption". I think the Police have been having a hard time to decide what criminal charges they can make against him.
  
  If they do charge him with (criminal) harrassment then I would like to see the JWs explain themselves when they requested that he attend a JC at the Kingdom Hall. He had already been carrying out his activism for some time and if he was really criminally harrassing him then why would they invite him into their Kingdom Hall, not to discuss the action they would take against him if he didn't stop his activism but for a JC.
  
  The video regarding the JC is here

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c-N6IgGWkg&t=35s
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  Here is what silly looks like

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for shits and grins, i looked at an online sunday meeting a few days ago on youtube.

  i was in disbelieve on just how silly everything looks with the watchtower reader reading from his little iphone and the watchtower conductor holding up his iphone to ask the questions.

  then the conductor asked the reader to read a bible verse and of course, he reads from his little phone.

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  The sacred book is now the sacred e-book but I guess they were once scrolls.
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  First time

  by Deke in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  good evening all, this is my first time posting.. been reading and following for two years.

  my story will come soon.... but i want to say to all, thanks for all the meaningful, intellectual, honest, and insightful words!!

  it’s been an interesting 48 years of service to an organization!

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  Welcome Deke, I'm looking forward to hearing more from you.
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  Watchtower sign was illegal

  by jaydee in

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  2. current

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  http://www.brooklyneagle.com/articles/2018/8/8/watchtower-sign-was-illegal-buildings-department-says.

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  They were very proud that they could inform the public of the time and the temperature.
  
  https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/activities/bethel/watchtower-sign-brooklyn-landmark/