Listener

Joined

• started 199 topics
• posted 4,913 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by Listener

• 
  13

  April 2019 Watchtower article 'Uphold the TRUTH about death'

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it appears this study article has been written because the organization is still having trouble teaching african jws that they are not to follow their traditional customs when someone dies and not to believe in spirits.it has been speculated for some time that it is african jws that have attributed to the increase in 'anointed' partakers.interestingly, no-where in this article does it even mention their two class system and the anointed having a heavenly hope.

  it is amazing that they title the article as upholding the truth about death and fail to mention their two hope doctrine.the following are some quotes -.

  satan, “the father of the lie,” has deceived people since the start of human history.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Listener

  That makes sense Smiddy.
• 
  13

  April 2019 Watchtower article 'Uphold the TRUTH about death'

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it appears this study article has been written because the organization is still having trouble teaching african jws that they are not to follow their traditional customs when someone dies and not to believe in spirits.it has been speculated for some time that it is african jws that have attributed to the increase in 'anointed' partakers.interestingly, no-where in this article does it even mention their two class system and the anointed having a heavenly hope.

  it is amazing that they title the article as upholding the truth about death and fail to mention their two hope doctrine.the following are some quotes -.

  satan, “the father of the lie,” has deceived people since the start of human history.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Listener

  It appears this study article has been written because the organization is still having trouble teaching African JWs that they are not to follow their traditional customs when someone dies and not to believe in spirits.
  
  It has been speculated for some time that it is African JWs that have attributed to the increase in 'anointed' partakers.
  
  Interestingly, no-where in this article does it even mention their two class system and the anointed having a heavenly hope. It is amazing that they title the article as upholding the truth about death and fail to mention their two hope doctrine.
  
  The following are some quotes -
  
  

  SATAN, “the father of the lie,” has deceived people since the start of human history. (John 8:44) Some of his lies include false teachings about death and about life after death.....
  
  THE TRUTH ABOUT THE CONDITION OF THE DEAD
  But Satan did not stop lying about death. At some point in time, he began to introduce other lies. One of those lies is the teaching that the physical body dies but that some part of the person lives on, perhaps in the spirit realm. Variations of that lie have deceived countless humans right down to our day.​—1 Tim. 4:1.
  ...we do not fear the dead; nor do we fear for them. We know that they are not alive and cannot harm anyone. It is as if they were in a deep sleep
  ...Do you not agree that the truth about the condition of the dead is clear, simple, and logical? What a contrast to Satan’s confusing lies!

  
  Since they only tell half the story about their beliefs of those that die, their message is simple. Unfortunately, it's one thing to use simplified english but completely another to exclude half their teachings on a matter just to make it look simple, especially when you claim you are speaking the truth about a matter.
  
  Further into the article, the Watchtower instructs JWs how they must behave, then a paragraph later they say that the Elders will not tell them how to behave -
  
  

  As Jehovah’s servants, we certainly do not believe any myths or take part in any practices that promote Satan’s lies!​—1 Cor. 10:21, 22.....
  
  If you are unsure about a certain custom or practice....If necessary, consult the elders in your congregation. They will not tell you what to do, but they can point you to relevant Bible principles, such as those discussed here.

  
  
  
  
  
• 
  21

  New Spanish speaking exjw YouTube channel has 48,543 subscribers • 3,178,290 views in just 26 days

  by Not_Culty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jcahege9us.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Listener

  She has 10,000 dislikes which indicates that there are a lot of JWs watching. It would seem that Spanish JWs are more willing to listen to apostates.
• 
  2

  Japan’s who’s who in branch explains How to deal with shunning.

  by yoko N in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://youtu.be/x-byd1iefnw.

  1. 
  2. 
• 

  Listener

  Thanks Yoko.

  Telling a person who is being shunned by his family that he deserved it is low and inhumane.
• 
  23

  Merry Christmas 🎄

  by snare&racket in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it’s that awesome time of year again...... food.

  drink.

  tree.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Listener

  Merry Xmas to you Simon and everyone here.
• 
  26

  All Watchtower Brooklyn sales in 37 NYC doc pages + spreadsheet

  by Corney in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have compiled 32 real property transfer reports (“reports”) and 5 recording and endorsement cover pages (“cover pages”) that are ny city public records and available online on a836-acris.nyc.gov site.

  37 pages, 38 properties, $2.2bn, one society... enjoy: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ryaj_4ihgs1uoyeptkbzdbmw9rd12dmf/view?usp=sharing.

  see also spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1acdsqfusm5mi2zatfn87ksxmvrdzh0wfxg9nlomdszw/edit?usp=sharing.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Listener

  Thanks for the research Corney.

  The current bunch of GB members should be very embarrassed with their oversight of the financial management of the Organization.
• 
  12

  CPAP machines for sleep apnoea.

  by zeb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have used a machine for some years.

  they cost a heap.

  too often they end up pumping a hot plastic smell out and therefore into my lungs.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Listener

  Glad to hear that you're okay Zeb.
• 
  12

  CPAP machines for sleep apnoea.

  by zeb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have used a machine for some years.

  they cost a heap.

  too often they end up pumping a hot plastic smell out and therefore into my lungs.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Listener

  Your symptoms don't sound good at all Zeb and you should get yourself checked out.
  
  It's not easy to find a Doctor open today but you can get a home visit. At the very least, you could initially call Healthdirect on 1800 022 222.
  
  
  
• 
  45

  Jehovah's Witnesses... Who sent the Star of Bethlehem?

  by JW Answers in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses... who sent the star of bethlehem?.

  the watchtower teach their followers that the star of bethlehem was sent by non other than satan... however as we take a look at the scriptures by comparing spiritual things with spiritual we begin to see that the star of bethlehem was not sent by satan, but used for the glory of god.a seasonal message to end the year.. watch now here :.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Listener

  Did Satan have the power to move stars in any direction he wanted in the first century but doesn't do it today?
• 
  5

  Meal at Bethel

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  an ex bethelite has made a video about the food that was provided at hq's.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxbe9hacqxu.

  towards the end he talks about the new arrangements with the cutbacks.for breakfast if you had served a certain amount of time at bethel or were old enough you could choose whether you wanted to attend breakfast/morning worship or not.

  first year bethels were made to attend to ensure they were watching the morning worship.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Listener

  An ex Bethelite has made a video about the food that was provided at HQ's.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXBE9hAcqXU

  
  

  Towards the end he talks about the new arrangements with the cutbacks.
  
  For breakfast if you had served a certain amount of time at Bethel or were old enough you could choose whether you wanted to attend breakfast/morning worship or not. First year Bethels were made to attend to ensure they were watching the morning worship. For the rest they provided a pantry where you could get food for free and was laden, paradise style, with plenty of food. Imagine being able to have sausages, eggs and bacon every morning, not that you would but it would be very tempting.
  
  The Youtuber said there was so much food available it was possible to invite your congregation over for a BBQ and feed them on the Watchtower's dime.
  
  There is no food served at all on Saturdays and Sundays.
  
  Lunch is served, cafeteria style for most of the Bethelites except for the Governing Body and other 'heavies' who are waited on. So much for wanting special attention or being humble. They really are low when they have directed others to serve themselves and not others in the same room. Why wait 'til you die and go to heaven to be a King when you can order to be treated like one now.