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  Patterson renovation—new donation boxes

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  over at reddit a post has appeared stating that a letter was read at this week's clam meeting announcing renovation work at the patterson compound, er, site:.

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/cmz8t5/announcement_patterson_is_being_renovated_extra/.

  does it strike anyone as odd that at a time of pretty extreme belt-tightening the gb is undertaking another costly building project?

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  Nowwhat? Patterson rebuild project fund. That complex is what 30 years old now? I can see why it would need extensive renovations that will take years! Give me a break!
  
  

  
  

  
  Do you mean you can't see why it would need extensive renovations? I wonder if they'll advise what these extensive renovations are? On a 30 year building most major renovations would be to modernize it. If the owner didn't have the money they would make do with what they had and be happy with a new coat of paint and a steam clean.
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  "Gem from the November 2019 WT. Reject apostate material because JWs trust in "their brothers."

  by Daniel1555 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  dear friends.

  i didn't post for a while, but i still enjoy the great jwn community.. just wanted to share a "gem" from the november 2019 study watchtower.. paragraph 8 from the article "are you maintaining your large shield of faith?".

  satan, “the father of the lie,” uses those under his control to spread lies about jehovah and about our brothers and sisters.

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  They have created their own definition of the word lie. According to them it must be deliberate. If ex JWs do state something that is incorrect, it is often just a mistake.

  From the same Warchtower they also say this

  We must be determined to build and maintain strong relationships with our brothers and sisters now. Why? Because our enemies will try to divide us by means of lies and misinformation. They will try to turn us against one another. But their efforts will be wasted. They will be unable to break our bonds of love. Nothing they do will disrupt the friendships we have formed.

  This is just hate speech and paranoia. Who are these so called enemies that are turning them against each other?
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  YouTuber Telltale's visit to JW World HQ

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just saw this new video and am very excited to listen to it but thought i would post it here for any others that also might like to watch it.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3305c_cf6im.

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  I just saw this new video and am very excited to listen to it but thought I would post it here for any others that also might like to watch it.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3305c_CF6IM
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  Introductions

  by Lobsto in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  well, i finally made an account.

  i’ve been lurking on here for four or so years, enjoying the debates and experiences of all of you.

  it really helped in that initial year after i woke up, when the frustration and betrayal felt strongest.

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  Listener

  Welcome to this forum. I look forward to your contributions.
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  2019-August Announcements and Reminders!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  english.

  https://docdro.id/rzjx912.

  same file as above in german.

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  Regarding the Special talk given the week before the memorial
  
  

  Since the Special Talk will be a revised version of Talk No 56 "Into the New World under Christ's leadership" the current version should not be presented after 1st September, 2019

  
  This would suggest that there is going to be New Light given. It always amuses me that they have new teachings but don't present them straight away, resulting in the fact that they are happy to teach false doctrines until they are ready to present them at their own given time.
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  RC in Japan. 9 brothers are sitting in the video control booth

  by yoko N in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  pimo who attended this convention said org was very effective in indoctrinating r&fs.. videos really help keep people's attention.

  few people get bored and doze off..

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  The indoctrinating was bad enough years ago when there were just books and magazines. I can't imagine what it is like for JWs these days with all these emotional videeos being shown.
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  Child Abuse

  by AshleyCollins in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i am totally lost.

  can someone explain what is happening with this issue, please?i read online that gb is trying to coverup or defend themselves and their organization... like what happened?

  isn't this horrible thing happening in all of the religions over the world...for example catholic church has got multiple scandals...but i just don't get it.

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  Ashley Colllins - Of course child abusers are not true jws, because I think those would never do this

  
  If that were the case then they wouldn't need their Judicial Committees. But they have plenty of JCs. They also have a system that they will forgive a JW of their serious sin, including child abuse, if they think they are repentant.
  
  All JWs sin, some worse than others.
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  Child Abuse

  by AshleyCollins in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i am totally lost.

  can someone explain what is happening with this issue, please?i read online that gb is trying to coverup or defend themselves and their organization... like what happened?

  isn't this horrible thing happening in all of the religions over the world...for example catholic church has got multiple scandals...but i just don't get it.

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  Ashley Collins could you please advise what a normal JW is?

  You seem very confused. On the one hand you say child abuse is a problem in every religion and on my he other hand you say child abusers are not JWs. So which on is it, the first or the second?
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  Is the Governing Body under estimating the volume of those waking up?

  by I believe in overlapping in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  with all the scandals of the organization, it would .

  be sound and logical from a human or strategic viewpoint,.

  that they loosen the reins of control and be more honest with its members.

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  They know best even when it is not sound or logical from a human viewpoint.
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  Criminal Charges against Jehovah's Witnesses for Trial Fraud!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just in case this wasn't posted yet.. criminal charges against jehovah's witnesses for trial fraud.

  (a video is provided on this same page.).

  use google translate.. https://www.swr.de/swraktuell/baden-wuerttemberg/strafanzeige-wegen-prozessbetrugs-gegen-zeugen-jehovas,zeugen-jehovas-104.html atlantis!

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  It looks like the Watchtower's defence is that JWs can do what they want and they are just upholding bible principles. It's interesting because that it how the Government works. A citizen has the ability to do whatever they want but the Government establishes laws and imposes punishment on those breaking the law.