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Transcript Of Judicial Committee Meeting Of Dale & Bette Baker

by Bangalore in

transcript of judicial committee meeting of dale & bette baker.. http://www.jehovahswitnessbooks.com/2010/03/judicial-committee-meeting-of-dale.html.

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Listener

Thanks for posting, it was an interesting read.

Elder V: There's a lot of things going on, they talk Christ and they say they know him, but they get caught up in emotion.

I wonder what this Elder would think about the way they are teaching nowadays, through highly emotional videos, often with tears.

Then there's Elder D that had some educational trading in mind control. I wonder what he would have thought about it.

The discussion couldn't have ended any better. Dale has been proven right and Elder J, if he was still around likely accepted the overlapping generation teaching, just as any mind controlled person would.

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Australia - Selling Off Assets

by Pants of Righteousness in

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this article seems to confirm what we already knew:.

https://thewest.com.au/news/australia/jehovahs-witnesses-accused-of-selling-off-assets-and-moving-cash-to-avoid-sex-abuse-compensation-ng-08ffe6d55e293182580d9e34b4400088?transactionid=72145.

Listener

Last year there were new standards introduced in Australia that require charities and religious organisations to keep closer tabs on how the money they send overseas is being properly spent by that third party. They are to keep sufficient records to demonstrate the money sent is not being used fraudulently. Although they aren't required to lodge this information, they may be asked by the ACNC to look at it.

https://www.acnc.gov.au/node/4755486

If there is sufficient cause the ACNC may be encouraged to investigate. The fact that they are not joining the redress scheme and are selling off Assets and sending a huge proportion of their earnings overseas may encourage the ACNC to do this but nothing has been announced to date.

Given that the requirement is that the Australian Branch must be able to present those records will require Watchtower Headquarters to provide them with this information, something they have unlikely done in the past. It means that they are now partly accountable to one of their branches which does not fit in with their theocracy structure.

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Australia - Selling Off Assets

by Pants of Righteousness in

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friends

this article seems to confirm what we already knew:.

https://thewest.com.au/news/australia/jehovahs-witnesses-accused-of-selling-off-assets-and-moving-cash-to-avoid-sex-abuse-compensation-ng-08ffe6d55e293182580d9e34b4400088?transactionid=72145.

Listener

Now there are claims being made over at reddit that the Watchtower have said that they can't join the redress scheme because they don't have any money.

They have also been claiming that there is an investigation into the Watchtower over this leaving others to think it is a Government investigation whereas it's simply a journalists/newspapers investigation who only hav as much as we do to speculate on.

Its getting out if hand and some ex JWs are hyping up what amounts to speculation and guess work. This is not good journalism and it's not clever on the part of some ex JWs to read more into this.

Even Winston from Watchtower Examination was nearly caught up with this hype until he carefully examined the information he had. He has just downloaded a much more level headed video on the situation.

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Did they use to applaud after reinstatement after being Disfellowshipped, but then it stopped?

by ThomasCovenant in

i don't remember disfellowshippings happening very often and announcements about being re instated but i think i remember that we used to clap hands if someone came back after being disfellowshipped.

but then i think clapping wasn't allowed.

am i correct in my recollections?.

Listener

New GB members have new ideas that they feel are so important they need to be implemented regardless of consistency. It's a pity they do not have this view in more important matters.

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CO'S "encouraging" letter to circuit

by nowwhat? in

the point of the letter was how many are feeling disappointed these days.. no circuit assembly, convention, how we can't fellowship at the k.h.

disappointed we might have had a love one die, etc etc.

he then goes on to write about how disappointed jehovah must have felt when his first human creation rebelled.

Listener

A Watcher, can't you find Jehovah through prayer and the Bible?

What did Christians do before Russell and the Watchtower came along?

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Emergency COVID Ration Spam Fritters

by Simon in

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so as things are now opening up and food never ran out, i've been dipping into our emergency supplies.

they say that spam doesn't have a shelf-life, it has a half-life, but i kind of wanted to see if it was like i remembered as a kid.. as it turns out spam fritters are as delicious as i remember, probably better ('cause i did fancy ones).

i used this recipe and they were glorious.

Listener

I agree with you, girl next door, tinned Salmon is fantastic. It doesn't have that dry coarse texture of tinned Tuna and has a better flavour. The price has gone up significantly in the past year but Tuna remains cheap.

Smoked muscles and oysters are delicious and make for a good snack on crackers but most of the canned produce comes out of China.

I've got a can of Mackerel in the pantry and can't bring myself to open it.

Out of all the canned foods on the Supermarket shelves during the shortages, only Spam was always available and even being discounted.

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How many of you would actually believe a child abuser would let his crime be watched by minimum two witnesses?

by Thinkforyourself in

in many closed religious cults, sects or globally widely spread religions, sexual abuse on big scale is revealed and covered up by the religious authorities.

in the jw, the culture is to deal with these matters within the org itself, and the rule is, "no crime can be proven without the presentation of at least two witnesses".

men made the rules, men commit these crimes and men defend them and even forse these children to meet and talk to their abusers.

Listener

They call themselves Jehovah's Witnesses but they have never physically seen or witnessed Jehovah. They claim, as God's only chosen ones, to have borne witness to the coming of Christ in 1914, yet that was invisible.

They choose to interpret scripture, even words (like 'witness') any way they want.

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Is it me or is John Cedars channel becoming a self important circle fest

by phoenixrising in

i still like the commentary on the jw.org monthly’s, i can skip through some parts.

but it seems like he is pushing too hard to put out videos and the quality is getting very low on the content..

Listener

Very funny Dozy but his Patreon 'Greece' level sounds so enticing. In his words $10 a month will give me

"Receive all the previous rewards, including: a link to participate in the recording of the monthly Patreon livestream, in which I will respond to your comments and questions live! Once it's over, the livestream video will be available exclusively for patrons."

Oh, the privelages, ready and waiting for me from JC himself, what a wonderful blessing! It feels and even looks very familiar.

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Is it me or is John Cedars channel becoming a self important circle fest

by phoenixrising in

i still like the commentary on the jw.org monthly’s, i can skip through some parts.

but it seems like he is pushing too hard to put out videos and the quality is getting very low on the content..

Listener

Someone mentioned on this thread that Cedars is against aggressive activism. That's 'aggressive activism' as he terms it. He's even written an article speaking out against it and was prepared to do so even though he would receive a lot of flak from it. Was his stance simply to stand out and draw more attention to himself?

He was making some sort of 'big deal' video last year, even travelling to Australia and America to film parts for it. I don't know what's happened to it but it wouldn't surprise me if he was still trying to figure out ways of making money from it, maybe even trying to flog it off to a big network, but sorry, I'm getting sidetracked.

Whilst in America he went to Watchtower headquarters in Warwick. He has a clip where he is filming for this super do per movie. He is on a little boat in front of the HQs filming himself holding up a protest sign and expects he is being watched. He excuses himself for this 'aggressive activism' with some nonsense but it's clear that he was staging this for his special movie.

Is this guy sincere? I don't think so.

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Cape Town JW's and Ex JW's

by Darkshadow2020 in

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friends

hi guys,.

i just signed up to the forum today.

i left the organisation over a year ago and have been sharing my experiences and shedding light on jw's on a religious forum.

Listener

The JWs I have spoken to here in Australia about the ARC are not phased about it and all. They don't see it as a problem. One Elder even felt that there was probably a lot of lies being made by so called victims. They feel that their handling of situations has been fine.