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Door to door again?

by Zeds Dead in

do you think the jdubs will start up the door whacking again one day?.

there has to be many inside the org that are dreading having to do that again and as for the general public seeing this, it’s hard to imagine.

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Listener

I doubt it. At least, not for a long time. Even if they wanted to push the idea that JWs must return to door to door work the push back from the public could be tremendous.

I would not like it if they were knocking on the doors of elderly people.

We are going to have to show proof of vaccination here in Australia in order to enter into many establishments, including hospitals, old age homes, public gatherings and other places.

Since their will be these restrictions in place, it doesn't seem right that you could have people entering people's private properties without their prior approval. If JWs started doing this, the issue would have to be legally addressed. This would bring unwarranted attention to them and I don't think they would want this negative publicity even though they fought for it in the courts years ago. Now they would be fighting public opinion. Are they willing to withstand this persecution, fighting the fine fight for the faith?

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Tony Morris hijacking GB

by asp59 in

has the gb been hijacked by tony morris?

hes the host many times on jw videos.

saying gb members wanting him too host.

Listener

But Morris family i read are wealthy.

Youtuber, The Blue Envelope, has made several video's about Tony Morris with a lot of interesting information. It appears his name is really Anthony Morris Junior and used on legal documents but likes to be known as 'the third'.

It was Morris himself that has given the impression that he was rich but it appears that he is not. The Blue Envelope provides a lot of documents to prove this.

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From MacHislopp--Grand Total Questions!

by Atlantis in

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i was asked post this for machislopp.

cookie thief!.

machislopp writes:.

Listener

For each given year they do not publish the figures for

- the number that have become inactive (inactive due to various reasons such as dfd)

- the number that have died

- the number that have become active again

- the number that have become active but not baptised

Therefore, given the figures that are given, there are a great number that have either died or become inactive.

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Can Jehovah's Witnesses explain the overlapping generation?

by pistolpete in

i found this interesting topic on the current views among jws regarding the overlapping generation.. the posts are hilarious.

how do most jehovah's witnesses explain the overlapping generation?.

i've asked a couple of jws to explain the overlapping generation and they directed me to the website jw------org.. either they don't know, or they do know but don't want to discuss it because they know it's bogus and embarrassing.. either way, surely they must know that this just extended the last days another 80 years from the time fred franz died.

Listener

"why do dyed in the wool watchtower watchers on their deathbed regret missing the great tribulation, A ?"

The clue in that is 'dyed in the wool' JWs. They have been indoctrinated so deeply that they are looking forward to the test to prove themselves faithful to Jehovah under the most extreme test that they will ever face. They want to be martyrs.

Every JW, since the beginning has been led to believe that the big A will come within their lifetime, they have been trained for it and expect it. To them, since it hasn't happened today, it will just be a little longer, it's not something that will happen after they die.

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Lucioni

by Yomama in

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many are ignoring the advice on shunning they cant wait for paramedics..

Listener

Direction on how to treat df ones unscriptual

So much so that he resorts to a medical intervention to relate it to.

Suggesting that Elders are the qualified spiritual healers of an individual and better than a family member is cruel.

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Merry Christmas and Award for Worst Gift of Christmas Thread

by GrreatTeacher in

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merry christmas!

it's 3 pm on the outskirts of washington, dc, but, hey, i've heard that santa is already busy around about australia and new zealand!

so, merry christmas to you all!.

Listener

I must have said I enjoyed maltesers to the kids at some stage and for years I've been getting a box of maltesers from them. No one else at home eats them so I'm stuck with them. Fortunately there wasn't one in sight this year.

One year, as a stocking filler I got each of our kids a giant 750gm (26oz) toblerone. They felt like they were eating toblerone forever and got sick of it pretty quick. They joke about it every now and then.

Our Chirstmas went well and it's always lovely to have an excuse for the whole family to get together.

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Just how much of a dramatic FLOP is this NEW LIGHT?

by Terry in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1xpxxtqvys.

your opinion, please, on the above video.

1. before jesus, humans were judged either by the law (jews and converts) or by natural law (noahide law).

Listener

As far as I can work out, the old light is that if you practised vile things you would get a resurrection, as long as you weren't sinning against the Holy Spirit. Once you were resurrected, if you practised vile things then it would prove that you had been resurrected to a one of judgement. A resurrected could practice vile things but only for a short time, a number of years, maybe less than 100 years.

With this new light, no one will be allowed to practice vile things during or after the 1,000 years. How sinful people aren't able to physically sin is a mighty feat but they want to create the 1,000 years as being peaceful and like paradise. You can't have people going around doing vile things and call that paradise.

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AM III speech at anual meeting 2021

by Gorb in

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just downloaded and watched the am iii speech about expetations about the end.. all i think it is ment to temper the high expetations that the rank and file have build up because of the pandemic.. most jw think that the big end will come now.. gb must be anticipating the anti climax that will come.. it is a very rare speech, i can say, and am iii was in a realistic mood, the audience was laughing and he was thinking "you are idiots", so it seems to me.. g..

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Slimboyfat - Although it does seem problematic if he was saying that Armageddon could be as late as 2020, because that would have contradicted the “generation” teaching at the time.

Morris said he couldn't remember if he told his kids that Armageddon could be as late as 2020 before 1975. However, he told his kids that when it was a Watchtower teaching that 'this generation' would occur before the generation that saw 1914 passed away. I think he said they were sitting in the back of his car.

He was either defying the doctrines of the Governing Body or he had just made the whole story up. Since he would never admit to lying then he has just given permission to all JWs that it's okay to not only contradict Watchtower teachings but it's also okay to make it public, as he did with his own kids and likely his wife.

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Yesterday I applied to join FB ex JW in Australia

by smiddy3 in

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today i see that my application was declined with no explanation or if i could review the decision ?.

or even ask why ?.

any aussies on this forum members of fb australia ex jw`s ?.

Listener

Do you mean the Australian & NZ Ex JWs Support Group on Facebook?

If so, a few years ago I asked about it on the Reddit forum and a member said I would need to email him so that he could put the request forward (as you need to be recommended). No doubt he checked out my posting history on Reddit.

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Child pornography should NOT be automatically handled by a judicial committee

by pistolpete in

new information added to the "shepherd the flock elder's book" .

they have updated their policy on viewing child pornography.. from a congregation standpoint it is not viewed as child sex abuse and is something that should not be automatically handled by a judicial committee.

it states that a person viewing child pornography should be strongly counseled.

Listener

Rattigan350 I just googled to find out whether it is or not and a legal firm has this to say

The Answer: Googling the term "child pornography" is not illegal, but viewing or possessing any images or depictions of children in sexual situations is illegal. ... After all, possessing or viewing those types of images is illegal in all 50 states and federally, so they do not allow criminal activity as searchable.2 June 2021

Another website (Stop it Now) has this to say

As the sexual abuse of a child is illegal, any image depicting this is an image of a crime being committed. Watching child pornography is a crime. Everytime your brother watches child pornography, he is committing a crime. In essence, two crimes are being committed at the same time - a child being sexually abused and watching a child being sexually abused. Additionally, when child pornography is watched, it creates a demand for images of children being sexually abused and hence, more children are at risk for being sexually abused by the people who make these images.
I would also add that child sexual abuse can also occur without touching a child. Non-touching child sex abuse does include watching child pornography. A woman who was sexually abused as a child and the abuse was filmed, stated that she feels violated time and time again whenever she thinks about these films being passed around. So, to be clear, viewing child pornography is absolutely child sexual abuse. For further information, please read defining child sexual abuse and defining child pornography.