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Senior JW member in Australia charged with sex crimes and torture
by Nathan Natas in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
see: https://7news.com.au/news/crime/senior-jehovahs-witnesses-member-charged-with-rape-torture-and-assault-of-teenage-boys-c-8044666.

"senior jehovah’s witnesses member charged with rape, torture and assault of teenage boys...".

the 61 year-old man "faces 21 counts of rape, 17 counts of sexual assault, 13 counts of procuring sexual acts by false pretence and one count each of incest, torture and common assault.".
Listener

Thanks for the update Jonahstourguide.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
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Diogenesister -"That's why I would take that video down if I was KM Marie. Either Kim Silvio must also work for watchtower (or Lloyd), or her cousin doesn't exist. "
I can't believe there are gullible people who believe stupid stuff like this video by KM Marie. It seems that the only credentials a person needs is to make a YouTube video and they'll have ex JWs believe them. Why can't they use their reasoning powers?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Listener

Newly Enlightened, I am curious as to why you feel that video you linked to is necessary viewing.
Do you really believe they are the words of her cousin who is working inside the British Branch? The balance of evidence would say that it is not.
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faithful and discreet slave appointed in 1919?
by enoughisenough in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
12 when did jesus appoint the faithful slave over his domestics?

to answer that, we need to go back to 1914—the beginning of the harvest season.

as we learned earlier, at that time many groups claimed to be christian.
Listener

From the OP Watchtower quote
" 1919, a time of spiritual revival, Jesus selected capable anointed brothers from among them to be the faithful and discreet slave and appointed them over his domestics."
Where is the evidence for this? Reality shows that there was no change in this hierarchical arrangement from one year to the next. The Watchtower doesn't even bother to name who these capable, anointed brothers were.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Listener

Thanks Joel/Pasta Hour for your comments on this thread. Part of the aim has been to try to get as much facts recorded in the one place and that's happening here. As you well know, efforts to expose him in the past have largely failed and hopefully this won't happen again.
I don't recall seeing the posts written by 'John Smith' that made Lloyd so angry in the first place.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Listener

SBF He prefers what he (mistakenly) regards as weaker targets - smaller xJW channels.
Probably because he's got away with it for far too long.
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Conditions of Watchtower Baptism
by Vanderhoven7 in
1. watchtower
2. bible
i understand that there are 80 to 100 questions that would-be witnesses must answer correctly before they can be considered eligible for "christian baptism".

however i have noticed that none of the questions relate to the 607destruction, the 1914 invisible presence and enthronement, or even the 1919 appointment of the faithful slave.. now some may feel my question is ridiculous, but bear with me.. will jehovah's witnesses baptize someone who answers all 100 questions satisfactorily, but rejects 607, 1914 and 1919 and the events the watchtower associates with these dates if they agree not to express their rejection to others?.

your thoughts....
Listener

Thanks for the list Vanderhovan7.
I don't see the following questions -
Is Jehovah your Heavenly Father in the truest sense?
Are you in the New Covenant?
Do you have Jesus as your mediator?
What is Jesus' role as mediator and what is his role as high priest?
Are you one of God's children?
Do you have the law written on your heart?
What is salvation and can it be earnt?
Are you born again?
However, it was explained to me that the baptismal questions are just basic and as a baptised JW you will continue to grow from a babe to have a deeper understanding. Personally, I don't think most of those questions are more important than understanding your relationship with Jehovah and Jesus and many of us were not given a clear understanding of this.
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Increased Watchtower Income
by Lost in the fog in
1. social
2. current
in the united kingdom.. .

https://www.civilsociety.co.uk/news/over-1000-charities-combine-in-one-of-largest-mergers-ever.html .
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Truthlover126, the report states
Earlier this year, 1,279 Jehovah’s Witness congregations merged into national charity the Kingdom Hall Trust.
I read this as basically there are no longer a lot of small charities but just one big one, being the Kingdom Hall Trust which the reporter call a 'national charity'.
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Apostates apparently have their own terminology
by Vanderhoven7 in
1. watchtower
2. bible
a dyed in the wool witness actually posted this as if non-witnesses invented unheard of terminology,.

"those who devote their life to criticize jehovah’s witnesses use a lot of very specific expressions and ideas common only to them:.

“8 old men in new york”,.
Listener

I wonder if he might be PIMO. That's a lot of terms for him to be familiar with.
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Watchtower lawyer fined for misleading the court
by Diogenesister in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
watchtower lawyer david brumley has been fined for misleading the court during the discovery process of the montana case.

the result was another 17 months of the courts time and the plaintiff having to produce evidence that wtpa did have a pivotal role in congregational business, which brumley had denied hoping that the courts would take his word for it.

he will be personally responsible for reimbursing the costs accrued by the plaintiff, due to his misleading affidavit.. see mark o donnell's twitter statement here:https://twitter.com/mark_j_odonnell/status/1562205475374043136?t=emdh163jnfi8kb6zch-uga&s=19.
Listener

Die hard/naive JWs will heed the wise words found in their Publications.
It appears that the Watchtower is using the persecution of JWs in Russia as an example for JWs to follow in other situations.
This is in the Nivember 2022 Watchtower
" 12. What do we learn from our brothers and sisters in Russia?
12 Consider how our brothers and sisters in Russia have come to the aid of their dear fellow believers who are imprisoned. When some are put on trial, many brothers and sisters come to the court to support them. What is the lesson for us? When responsible brothers are defamed, arrested, or persecuted, do not become intimidated. Pray for them, care for their family members, and look for other practical ways to show your support.—Acts 12:5; 2 Cor. 1:10, 11."