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No more REPORTING field service!!!!!!!!!

by BoogerMan in

this is going to break the hearts of a lot of uber-jw's!

reddit has now removed the video link of samuel herd telling jw's they will no longer have to report time or placements - just tick a box which says "active.".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akdshyx79rm&t=13s.

Listener

Are they reasoning that Jehovah is no longer judging them on the amount of hours that they witness but is still doing so when it comes to pioneers and others?

In another part they talk about giving your best which has no connection with giving 10%.

They also talk about the pioneers being like the Nazarene's because they made a vow to commit (to certain requirements, as in hours). Later they mention something no longer being applicable because there is no type/antitype. But the organisation still sees counting time as an important part for them and that monitoring time is still a requirement even though they just said that Jehovah doesn't require it and that it's not an important part.

They've created a new class of JW, one that doesn't need monitoring and one that does.

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No more REPORTING field service!!!!!!!!!

by BoogerMan in

this is going to break the hearts of a lot of uber-jw's!

reddit has now removed the video link of samuel herd telling jw's they will no longer have to report time or placements - just tick a box which says "active.".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akdshyx79rm&t=13s.

Listener

Are they going to pressure Elders and MSs to auxillary pioneer often? It will mean going from 10 hours a month to 15.

They will be keeping a record of those that sign up for it and it's possible it could be the new bench mark for potential Elders. Being vague as to how often they would need to auxillary pioneer would pressure them further.

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No more REPORTING field service!!!!!!!!!

by BoogerMan in

this is going to break the hearts of a lot of uber-jw's!

reddit has now removed the video link of samuel herd telling jw's they will no longer have to report time or placements - just tick a box which says "active.".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akdshyx79rm&t=13s.

Listener

Breaking News on the NEWs section JW.org

BREAKING NEWS | Adjustments to Field Service Reporting

On October 7, 2023, at the annual meeting of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania, the following exciting announcement was made. Beginning November 1, 2023, congregation publishers will no longer be asked to report the amount of time they spend in the ministry. Nor will publishers be asked to report their placements, the videos they show, or return visits. Instead, the field service report will simply have a box that allows each publisher to indicate that he or she shared in any form of the ministry during the month.

There will be one more box where publishers can report the number of different Bible studies they conduct.
Missionaries, circuit overseers and their wives, special pioneers, regular pioneers, and auxiliary pioneers will continue to report the number of hours they spend in the ministry, along with the number of different Bible studies they conduct. Further information about this adjustment will be provided to all congregations in the coming weeks.

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No more REPORTING field service!!!!!!!!!

by BoogerMan in

this is going to break the hearts of a lot of uber-jw's!

reddit has now removed the video link of samuel herd telling jw's they will no longer have to report time or placements - just tick a box which says "active.".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akdshyx79rm&t=13s.

Listener

Of course, not one of us believe the reasons that the Governing Body gave for the change.

They are not honest men.

If their reasons were true then they would apply equally to those that are still required to report such as pioneers/missionaries etc.

If their decisions don't make sense from a human viewpoint then it's only because they are lying as to the reasons why they made them.

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No more REPORTING field service!!!!!!!!!

by BoogerMan in

this is going to break the hearts of a lot of uber-jw's!

reddit has now removed the video link of samuel herd telling jw's they will no longer have to report time or placements - just tick a box which says "active.".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akdshyx79rm&t=13s.

Listener

A lot of children and teenagers were caught up in this requirement of having to report, in detail, their monthly activity. Some whether they wanted to or not because they were pushed into it or simply because they got baptized.

The change means they appear to be gentler on them and that's helpful when dealing with the courts.

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"A good REPORT invigorates the bones." (Proverbs 15:30) 🤣🤣🤣

by BoogerMan in

yesterday's annual meeting "report" was soooooooooooo invigorating!.

memories:.

km 1/97 p. 7 question box - why should we report our field service activity promptly each month?

Listener

As of the 1st November, 2023, through his holy spirit, Jehovah has conveyed to the Governing Body Jehovah no longer wants to undignify or continue to show a lack of confidence in them.

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No more REPORTING field service!!!!!!!!!

by BoogerMan in

this is going to break the hearts of a lot of uber-jw's!

reddit has now removed the video link of samuel herd telling jw's they will no longer have to report time or placements - just tick a box which says "active.".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akdshyx79rm&t=13s.

Listener

In the final talk Sanderson says that because of this historic occasion and the maybe the JWs listening are more full of love for Jehovah than EVER before. He says "We've deepened our understanding of Jehovah's mercy, his compassion and his patience and what about that announcement about our field service reporting? Jehovah is dignifying us, he has confidence in us."

From a GB point of view, some of them have likely felt they are proving themselves to be failing in their responsibilities. Instead of progressing, they're going backwards and it reflects badly on them. So badly, that if it wasn't for the excuse they use, that they are imperfect and fallible men, they would conclude that they didn't have God's backing or HS. They've had to conjure up a plan to turn things around and the whole Annual Meeting has been about this.

However, their ideas and reasoning gets more and more bizarre.

Fancy that, Jehovah is finally dignifying the domestics by directing the Governing Body through his Holy Spirit by removing the requirement of detailed ministry reporting.

Stupidly, this means that previously reporting was undignified and they couldn't be trusted. It also means that Jehovah has changed his view towards his followers. One day, they needed monitoring, the next they didn't. It's all Gods doing and nothing to do with the ever changing whims of Governing Body members.

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No more REPORTING field service!!!!!!!!!

by BoogerMan in

this is going to break the hearts of a lot of uber-jw's!

reddit has now removed the video link of samuel herd telling jw's they will no longer have to report time or placements - just tick a box which says "active.".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akdshyx79rm&t=13s.

Listener

I still think that there is a possibility that they are going to require JWs to actively approach people in their public cart witnessing, this makes sense as to why the younger brother was afraid to show the JW logo when a policeman walked past him in this months Broadcast.

The organization is distancing themselves from any legal ramifications this may cause between individual JWs and the Watchtower.

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No more REPORTING field service!!!!!!!!!

by BoogerMan in

this is going to break the hearts of a lot of uber-jw's!

reddit has now removed the video link of samuel herd telling jw's they will no longer have to report time or placements - just tick a box which says "active.".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akdshyx79rm&t=13s.

Listener

How easy it's now going to be to increase their numbers.

Have your Bible study attend the occasional meeting, ask them if they've been speaking to others about it or anything spiritual and they are instantly an active publisher.

JW children won't need to be going door knocking, likely all they will need is the nod of an Elder who hears about their informal witnessing and they too can be actively reporting.

It will be interesting to see what the guidelines are but we saw how they changed what they now consider to be a Bible study. I think they can count a return visit who they spend more than 15 minutes at the door with and that person doesn't even know that they are a Bible study.

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Hailstones?

by NotFormer in

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when i was interested in things jw two decades or so ago, i never came across these mentions of hailstones.

it crops up so often now that it's almost a meme!

when did it become a thing in jw speak, and what does it refer to?.

Listener

That's what I was thinking NotFormer.

They will feel attacked from many angles. They'll be worried about the police being called on them for harassment or being a disturbance, then there will be people that just want to be left alone which will result in all sorts of reactions from nasty to frustrated and there will also be those that challenge them.

If they can't get permission to do their preaching in an area and for this type of preaching (there are many places that will required it), will they still do it? From the video on the October broadcast, it appears that they might.

There'll be a lot of court cases and a lot of fines.

It's going to be easy for activists to write into the councils or government bodies that give the permission, to provide multiple reasons as to why they should not.