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SECRET RECORDING 14TH APRIL:RALPH WALLS: MORE CHANGES ARE COMING!

by raymond frantz in

secret recording 14th april:ralph walls: more changes are coming!.

( broadcasted to all british congregations today).

https://youtu.be/owg4bqj7pd0?si=yvfpkkos_qoy9u10.

Listener

Halcon - What a claim. What scriptures did he use to support this?

He didn't use any scriptures and it is the first time I have heard that the anointed were going to receive their own source of life and energy.

Being given incorruptible bodies is in their literature but I can't find anything to show that receiving their own source of life is in there.

I did find the following about Jesus -

Watchtower 62 10/1

36 The title “father” means a male parent, and a male parent means a progenitor, an author or source, one who begets or brings forth offspring. Since God was the Father of Jesus, was Jesus also dependent upon God for life? Only Jesus’ own words could give a convincing answer to this question. Note now these words of Jesus: “The dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself.” (John 5:25, 26, AV) God as the Father is the Source of life; and he gives to his Son the privilege to have life in himself. We can therefore appreciate what John 1:4, 5 (AV) says of the Word or Logos: “In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.”

They further state in the article that as Jesus has his own source of life, he is the power to resurrect and was given those keys.

But whether they moved away from this teaching is not clear. There are numerous articles before and after this that state that only Jehovah is the source of life.

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SECRET RECORDING 14TH APRIL:RALPH WALLS: MORE CHANGES ARE COMING!

by raymond frantz in

secret recording 14th april:ralph walls: more changes are coming!.

( broadcasted to all british congregations today).

https://youtu.be/owg4bqj7pd0?si=yvfpkkos_qoy9u10.

Listener

He says that the anointed will have incorruptible bodies and be given what even the angels don’t have, only jehovah and Jesus - their own source of life and energy.

He says JWs are privelaged to have what many will not have, that is, personal knowledge of the anointed (meaning the GB members).

No doubt, this is how they justify blasting their faces into jws homes, on the assembly screens and on JW.org. It’s a privelage that they bestow on the r&f.

How much more reverence can they call to themselves?

Time stamp is 15.30

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I think I know what the GB is doing

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

read:.

but if ever that evil slave says in his heart, ‘my master is delaying,’b 49 and he starts to beat his fellow slaves and to eat and drink with the confirmed drunkards.

hmm... let's see is anyone on the governing body a strict master and a drunkard?

Listener

Howthebiblewascreated ...All the changes: no hours, beards, pants and no ties, salvation by grace after the tribulation and dissfelliwshipped greeting and 3 month term...

More than one previous GB member put those laws into place before AMIII. If there was an evil slave, it couldn't be pinned on AMIII, it would have to be previous leaders.

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Watchtower intentionally misleading the court?

by Vanderhoven7 in

seems to me wt lawyers and witnesses cannot be trusted even under oath.. mara mitchell writes.

as far as their family members are concerned, normal family relations continue with the exception of spiritual fellowship.”.

attached is a video on how watchtower presents family members being treated by their family when defending themselves in court.. .

Listener

If this was true, it's very likely the ex JW that brought the case to court would have felt any need to.

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2024-April Shepherd The Flock Of God Manual.

by Atlantis in

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2024-april-elder-manual.. .

https://files.accessjw.org/s/qpctw2hg87t9hxx .

grandpa!.

Listener

It looks like the Chariot can't keep up with itself.

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Prediction: no more changes for a long while

by slimboyfat in

i’ve noticed a pattern where things don’t go the way i expect them to go and/or whenever i realise there is a trend and, i mentally adjust for the idea that the trend will continue, the trend stops in its tracks.

so on that basis, and given many people, including myself, and active jws, have been asking ‘what changes will the governing body make next?’ perhaps the (disappointing) answer is: ‘nothing much for a while to come’.

maybe they’ve made the changes they want for now, and will wait a while and see how it’s received.

Listener

NotFormer - Are there any more important frivolities that they can address?

How about this one - They announce big changes to 1914 and at the same time, announce that masturbation is now a conscience matter.

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Will I be disfellowshippwd

by Sydney in

y'all i am an unmedicated bipolar.

i had a mania streak and slept with my bf who is of the world.

i am pregnant from this.

Listener

Sydney, are you seeking any medical assistance at all? I would focus on this in the first instance as being pregnant could cause issues, along with having to deal with the Elders. It is important that you and your unborn baby are safe and healthy.

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Norway

by St George of England in

so the wt society is going to contest the recent norway ruling.. jehovah’s witnesses to appeal unconstitutional ruling in norway (jw.org).

their true colours are shown in the statement: "the decision to deregister jehovah’s witnesses denies us the financial aid and other benefits that the government provides to over 700 registered religious communities in the country.

additional consequences include losing the right to appoint and authorize ministers of jehovah’s witnesses as officiants for weddings.".

Listener

Jeffro - But they have doubled down on shunning 'apostates'

Yes, they may have eliminated a few of the reasons for the ruling but they've also made it worse in other areas, such as apostasy, as you pointed out.

I wonder if they think that it's not possible for a minor to be considered as an apostate because they are ultimately under the authority of their parents. If their parents tell them they have to attend meetings, or they can't speak negatively about the religion to others, or that their atheism is irrelevant then the Government will not intervene in the well accepted parent/child relationship, so apostasy becomes irrelevant. They may argue in court that they will not disfellowship a child for apostasy because ultimately all they are doing is rebelling against the parents and it's up to the parents to keep them in line.

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Norway

by St George of England in

so the wt society is going to contest the recent norway ruling.. jehovah’s witnesses to appeal unconstitutional ruling in norway (jw.org).

their true colours are shown in the statement: "the decision to deregister jehovah’s witnesses denies us the financial aid and other benefits that the government provides to over 700 registered religious communities in the country.

additional consequences include losing the right to appoint and authorize ministers of jehovah’s witnesses as officiants for weddings.".

Listener

The Watchtower was so quick to change their policies and procedures in relation to minors, JCs and disfelowshipping. Although the Courts decision had a lot to do with the organisations treatment of minors when disfellowshipped, it appears that the Watchtower has not done enough.

These changes that they have just made in relation to the dealing of serious sins by minors have been drastic. It appears that the organisation painstakingly went to the trouble of downplaying it by introducing cosmetic changes to the dress codes which were likely to catch the attention of jws.

It is interesting that they now place the responsibility of children’s behaviour for serious sins back to the parents, who, biblically they have always been in subjection to. This change affects those children that have been baptised or are an official publisher. I am looking forward to seeing how they put this in print for jws to read.

However, they’ve ignored the fact that the same principles apply to the wives in the household, who are in subjection to their husbands, being the head of the household.

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Punkofnice

by jhine in

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does anyone know how punky is ?

he hasn't posted in a while ?

jan from tam .

Listener

Nice to hear from you Punkofnice and great to hear you are enjoying family life.