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Breaking News :Charity Commission takes Wathtower to Tribunal in Britain

by raymond frantz in

breaking news :charity commission takes watchtower to charity tribunal in britain.

two weeks ago we run an article about the abuse case in moston manchester congregation .it would seem that the coverage from the main local newspaper manchester evening news and two national newspapers has alarmed the charity commission the official regulator for charities in england and wales and now for the first time !

they opened an official investigation on both charities ,the local one ,moston congragation and the central one jehovah's witnesses of britain indicating that in their eyes these two are connected and liable for any misconduct .this is the time for a concentrated campaign from all of us to inform the charity commission why the watchtower should not be a called a charity .the article above has a link for the charity commission complaint page .follow it!.

Listener

Another link

provides this information

The commission said it opened a case into the charity in July last year amid concerns about its approach to safeguarding matters.

It said its concerns had been "amplified by recent criminal cases concerning historic incidents of abuse involving individuals who appear to have been connected to Jehovah’s Witnesses congregations and/or the charity".,,,,A statement issued by the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Britain on behalf of it and the Manchester New Moston congregation said the commission’s decision to open statutory inquiries into both charities had been "premature".

The Commission will probably find that it is not appropriate for elders to question children regarding alleged abuses. This is appropriate but it will really stuff the organization up as they will be losing a 'witness' as part of their two witness policy.

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Do you agree or disagree with this statement?

by KateWild in

only assertions that can be proven scientifically, empirically or logically should be accepted as true.. kate xx.

Listener

It's a funny question, an assertion often has no proof to substantiate it as true, therefore it is possible that there would be no assertion if it could be proven.

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Breaking News :Charity Commission takes Wathtower to Tribunal in Britain

by raymond frantz in

breaking news :charity commission takes watchtower to charity tribunal in britain.

two weeks ago we run an article about the abuse case in moston manchester congregation .it would seem that the coverage from the main local newspaper manchester evening news and two national newspapers has alarmed the charity commission the official regulator for charities in england and wales and now for the first time !

they opened an official investigation on both charities ,the local one ,moston congragation and the central one jehovah's witnesses of britain indicating that in their eyes these two are connected and liable for any misconduct .this is the time for a concentrated campaign from all of us to inform the charity commission why the watchtower should not be a called a charity .the article above has a link for the charity commission complaint page .follow it!.

Listener

The Commission says this about the organization.

The trustees of each of the charities have indicated to the Commission that they intend to challenge the regulator's decisions to open the statutory inquiries in the First-tier Tribunal (Charity). - See more at: http://www.charitycommission.gov.uk/news/charity-commission-investigates-jehovahs-witnesses-charities/#sthash.LtwSRZX8.dpuf

This organization is unable to subject itself to higher authorities as the bible instructs them too. They should consider themselves as being blessed because the Commission will review their policies and provide some common sense approach to it's management and this is free. Instead they act like the bad little boy who denies he did anything wrong.

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Unbalanced way of thinking?

by msconcerned in

so, one hot beautiful (not a cloud in the sky) kind of summer day, there was an elder who decided to re shingle his house.

this was on the book study day.

he started early and got all the shingles off of the roof in time for the book study that night.

Listener

It's hard to believe that nobody put a stop to the meeting due to the safety risk, with water on electrical lines and coming through the roof with a chance of that collapsing as well.

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True Stories from the Tower - Part 1 "From Anointed to Pedophile to Bethelite"

by BluePill2 in

before i dive into the actual write-up of this experience, let me put some things straight.. i have thought long and hard if i should write more about my experiences during the 10+ years at different branches.

during these years i worked from financial department, service department, home office and different it assignments.

as you can imagine one sees and hears and reads a lot of stuff going through different stations in different countries.

Listener

Villagegirl, put your money where your mouth is and report it yourself now that you have been told about this. What's your excuse?

It's pretty hard for anyone to take your comments sincerely when you are acting pretty much like a troll. For instance you said in regards to BluePill2

Why not edit this down to about

two paragraphs and say what you mean and name some names

and tell us what you did , specifically, to help or protect those children

without 'clouding the issue' with verbage and padding

Then you told him not to write a book basically because he doesn't have the ability.

Once again, you are attacking the person, insulting them and putting them down rather than sticking to your point.

BluePill2, I don't doubt the organization reads information that is supplied on this forum. Hopefully it is stories that wake those high up in the organization to see the injustice and lack of proper christian duties.

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2014 Convention Audio available?

by gbrn in

i was wondering if anyone is aware of any recordings of the convention as of yet?

i know its relatively early, so i may just have to wait.

just curious if anyone had a copy yet.. thanks!.

Listener

Thanks

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Recent refinements / changes in WTS

by Da.Furious in

we had our co visit and on his second talk he mentioned we need to be a pillar and support of the truth.

we can do this by accepting and working with all the changes, refinements and the speed of jehovahs organisation moving forward.. he listed the refinements and changes that occurred in the last couple of years:.

1- study edition of wt - allows the society to use more meaty articles and not worry about non jws understanding them.. 2- public edition of wt and awake.

Listener

And they teach God is not a God of change.

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Elders attempted to catch me out

by stuckinarut2 in

hey all,.

i had two elders just "drop in" yesterday...walked around the back of my house and all....rude....i happened to be home, and opened the door.... one is doing spring cleaning at his house, and so in general chit chat, they spoke of how we all dont need to keep the bound volumes or older mags anymore, as everything we need is on the website or cd rom.... i just casually said, "yes, but its nice to have the originals so we can see the original wording and info".

one of them snapped his neck spinning so quick, frothed at the mouth and said "what do you mean changes?...nothing changes!!".

Listener

You could have told them that they have a lot of faith in the earthly technology but you'd like to keep the printed copies because they may prove to be a real source of comfort during the GT as we may not even have electricity. You might also add that they may prove invaluable if you threw one or two in your Go Bag.

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Atlanta Int Convention 2014:The Big Party. Does this look like WT believes Armageddon is coming "soon"?

by AndDontCallMeShirley in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=potrr2qxhue.

.. if armageddon is "imminent", why is wt focused on sight-seeing, entertainment, travel, etc.

instead of preaching and saving people??.

Listener

In true Watchtower Cult behaviour the family can't just discuss their preparation for the convention in a normal manner, they make a family worship night of it. This elevates the arrangements to beyond practicalities and glorifying the GB and their provisions. This is also enhanced by their crazy ideas that these are theocratic arrangements.

It's so funny that they encourage the sheepies to do a dry run, what an honor this must be to be involved in a pilgramage. This is made even more special by the personal appearance of GB members whom they put on a pedestal by advertising that they will be there and telecasted from that location to many others. Yep, they get to see them live, in concert, all for the cost of a mantra ticket - bargain, the City of Atlanta thank them sincerely.

Regarding the scripture of Revelation 7:9 that they discuss, who needs Armageddon when they themselves have already identified who the great crowd of Revelation is? Talk about running ahead of Jehovah. That was supposed to be a future event. I just don't understand why they haven't instructed them to wear white robes.

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What's more to blame- the WT or the bible?

by keyser soze in

jw
friends

aren't they both just differen't variations of the same lie?

the only difference is the scale on which their impact on humanity is measured.

that, and the fact that the bible can exist without the wt, but not vice versa.. but at the end of the day, what's the difference between claiming to be the inspired word of god, or the one true religion?

Listener

The bible is just the tool. It is men who misuse it to promote their own agenda.