Very clever, creative and well produced.
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The Real Truth About Raymond V. Franz Revealed!
by bjc2012 inand for those reasons, coj wanted in the beginning, to stay with the organization, just like bill bowens.
that is all carl wanted.
yes, as members of the governing body, they knew full well, exactly what carl's writings meant.
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The opening post is just rubbish. Ray Franz never set out to be a hero or brave so the whole premise is wrong.
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IN THEIR OWN WORDS: The mean-spirit of Russell's sham marriage
by Terry init is commonly known by jehovah's witnesses, the marriage of pastor c.t.russell and his wife maria (moe-rye-uh) was an uneasy one.. the marriage itself was founded on a weird interpretation of "virginity" and "purity" as only an obsessive-compulsive.
puritan fanatic might find agreeable.
the two of them were not to share a bed (or physical relations.).
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Thanks for the link Terry. I had a fair deal of respect for Russell until I found out about his wife and how he treated her towards the end of their relationship but particularly more so after their seperation. As the leader of a religious organization he had no excuse for not monetarilly supporting his wife but he went even further by shifting monies from his personal accounts into business structures in order to avoid reasonable payments to her.
Even though these words were written more than 100 years ago it is uncanny as to how much of Mrs Russell's statements are so true of the organization and its leaders today.
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THE CURRENT FADING OF BRAND NAME "THE WATCHTOWER"
by steve2 inthe current fading of brand name "the watchtower" & the rise, rise, rise of jw.org.
the watchtower as brand name is in the process of being imperceptibly faded from visibility in the organization.
who'd have thought you could make a watchtower fade and disappear?
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Entertainment for International Delegates
by Listener inbibl3thumper has posted a youtube of the celebrations that took place for german delegates.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvs6_q7rqps&feature=em-subs_digest.
it's hard to believe that they are now using the kingdom hall to sing pop songs and for dancing.
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What struck me as really ironic was the Sister instructing the whole congregation on the dance moves and all this from the stage.
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JW daughter, 12-14 years since we spoke is getting a divorce.
by jam injust learn this from my son.
all hush, hush among the jw.
side of the family...she never forgave me for divorcing her mom... she have two kids...
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Hopefully her own experience will open her eyes and she will have more understanding of you. It would be lovely to hear that she no longer shuns you.
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Entertainment for International Delegates
by Listener inbibl3thumper has posted a youtube of the celebrations that took place for german delegates.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvs6_q7rqps&feature=em-subs_digest.
it's hard to believe that they are now using the kingdom hall to sing pop songs and for dancing.
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Bibl3Thumper has posted a youtube of the celebrations that took place for German Delegates
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVs6_q7rqps&feature=em-subs_digest
It's hard to believe that they are now using the Kingdom Hall to sing pop songs and for dancing. Nearly the whole congregation ended up on their feet, making noises and swaying about.
I loved the huge convention celebration cake they provided, all inclusive of the Ford Logo prominantely displayed.
Ah yes, this religion transforms itself from the darkness into light in the most glorious and praiseworthy way. This includes bearing huge bags of gifts for the delegates, the privileged ones who are of 'high standing'.
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International Conventions
by tenyearsafter injust saw a facebook post from an acquaintance who just went to the international convention in dallas, tx.
according to his post, there were approximately 50,000 in attendance on sunday, with 468 baptized.
there were an additional 9 conventions tied to this one, with an attendance of approximately 100,000 and 609 baptisms total, including dallas.
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Also, the average age of those getting baptized is probably getting younger and younger, so the declines will be noticed more and more in following years.
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I am Back on JWN and out of hospital
by KateWild inhey everyone,.
thanks qcf and nugget for starting threads.
thanks cofty for wondering where i was.
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I'm glad you are out of hospital Kate and hope you really enjoy your holiday with your daughter, make the most of it and just relax.
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International Convention in Arlington, Texas
by Rufus T. Firefly inthis year there were only two conventions in texas.
an international convention at at&t (cowboy) stadium in arlington, and a regional convention in houston.
projections for the arlington convention ranged from 60-85k, with attendees coming from ok, ar and la, no to mention the international delegates; however, the peak attendance on sunday was 50,000..
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Thanks for reporting, it is interesting that they didn't reach their anticipated numbers. Was there a lot of begging for more donations?