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  what things can we say

  by pepperheart in

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  2. beliefs

  what sort of things could we say to people on the trolleys and going door to door to make the most of the fact that the magazines are going bimonthly from now on .

  ie oh will headquaters pay able to give you a bit of money for your fuel costs now ?.

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  You could say that you are surprised that there isn't one bible on the trolley and wondered if it was too costly to give them away.
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  Those keenly following umbertoecho ARC Brief Update.

  by MightyV8 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i feel it is comfortable to say,.

  yes her arc hearing has come and gone.. yes her hearing was so powerful, her allotted time was tripled!.

  yes, information handed over "mind blowing" response from arc.

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  I would like to flag your post Makemeanunbeliever as I feel you are just trying to undermine people on here.

  For far too long people have just accepted the mistreatment dished out to them from the WTBTS, they are slowly being exposed even though it is evident that there are still Jw heavies and other ignorant ones who would prefer that things continue on the way they are. For too long they have had complete freedom in behaving in an unloving and cruel manner. They wouldn't be in this situation if they had stuck to bible principles instead of protecting their mighty beast - the Org.

  Even though you know your post is cruel, you've got no idea just how cruel it is.

  Isn't it simply amazing that it has been the Governments of this World that want to do something positive and beneficial to help and assist victims and to prevent future victims? The Aust RC is proof of this. The WTBTS have had decades to improve their policies and it has taken the Commission to determine that they have done very little. Through court cases and being exposed to the World they now have to face the backlash. Just look at how they are reacting to all this and it's clear that they are taking it very hard.

  It is a big deal and it takes a little person (or the WTBTS) to think it's not.

  You can carry on all you want on some issues but when it comes to child abuse you're not going to get away with it. It amazes me how anyone would want to troll about such a serious issue when it is obvious that so much damage has been done.
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  "Marked" for association with "worldly guy"

  by Anon_SA1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my best friend has recently been "marked" for associating with a "worldly guy" what advice can you give me to pass onto her?

  i am not a jw, never been one, so looking for guidance.

  thank you in advance.

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  The Shepherding the Flock Book instructs the Elders to mark the person

  Example-mark for dating an "unbeliever": The elders should first counsel and try to help a disorderly one. If a person persists in a way that is disturbing and that has the potential for spreading, they may conclude that there would be reason for a warning talk to be given to the congregation.-2 Cor. 6:14; 2 Thess. 3:11, 14; w99 7/15 p. 3l. ...3. If the disorderly one becomes ashamed of his ways and is moved to change, then as elders of the congregation see the adjustment, they can individuaUy dedde to end the limitation they have put on personally sodalizing with him. This will indicate to the congregation that he is no longer marked.
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  Those keenly following umbertoecho ARC Brief Update.

  by MightyV8 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i feel it is comfortable to say,.

  yes her arc hearing has come and gone.. yes her hearing was so powerful, her allotted time was tripled!.

  yes, information handed over "mind blowing" response from arc.

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  Umbertoecho has put so much into this and is to be greatly commended. MightV8, you mentioned about her family and I hope everything is manageable in that area.

  What I admire most about Umbertoecho is her love for other people and her willingness to help in working towards justice for victims.
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  My RC hearing brought forward. Will be in two weeks

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  through this forum of wonderful freaks, i have met someone who is coming with me to my hearing.

  initially i was slated for next year, but will be attending in two weeks time.

  all is in place from travel vouchers, support, where to go ............very efficient and well done.

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  Great to hear and thanks MightyV8 for keeping us up to date.
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  Christian Family Gets 5 Children Taken Away by Gov't for Teaching God Punishes Sin

  by GodZoo in

  1. social
  2. current

  child welfare services in norway have reportedly removed five christian children from their parents' home and placed them into foster care after the parents were accused of radicalizing and indoctrinating their children with christianity.. according to the british-based christian institute, norway's child protection services, known as the barnevernet, seized the three sons and two daughters of ruth and marius bodnariu in mid-november.. .

  although the family wasn't quite sure at the time why their children were being taken away from them, their lawyer discovered that the parents were being charged with christian indoctrination.http://www.christianpost.com/news/christian-family-gets-5-children-taken-away-by-govt-for-teaching-god-punishes-sin-151693/.

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  Radical Christian indoctrination was not the only charge according to the report but it is the only one listed in the report. Radical christian indoctrination could have a serious detrimental effect on the children but no details are presented.

  "...The Bodnariu's lawyer obtained a copy of the government document that lists the charges against Marius and Ruth, which includes being listed as "radical Christians who were indoctrinating their children...."
  
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  Kim and mikeys chanel on YouTube they uploaded a video of more singing and dancing

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  on their chanel they are showing a video of a special assembly day in belgium i believe.

  the jws are dancing dressed in black and red, satanic colores.

  singing and playing worldly songs and kingdom melodies.

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  At around the 2 minute mark there are at least 3 guys dancing in the audience who have punk like hairstyles, sort sides (or blonde dyed?) and long on the top. Pity they got rid of the word 'wordly' to describe unwanted behaviour.

  They flash the name Jehovah on the screen at the end and all lift up their arms, it is so weird.
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  Kim and mikeys chanel on YouTube they uploaded a video of more singing and dancing

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  on their chanel they are showing a video of a special assembly day in belgium i believe.

  the jws are dancing dressed in black and red, satanic colores.

  singing and playing worldly songs and kingdom melodies.

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  Another YouTube video labels it as the Belgium concert for delegates.
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  Chaos at Brooklyn Bethel 12/2016

  by James Jack in

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  2. scandals

  this was how it was described to me yesterday by a brother who has been there for some 40 years.

  "everyone is about gone; the governing body is set to leave within 2 months; the kitchen and laundry personnel are gone and i have to fend for myself now.".

  "also the aggravation of 4 to 5 business men in suits with clipboards daily checking out the watchtower properties.

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  It wouldn't surprise me if the females take on these duties for a few others outside of work hours (as well as her husband). She doesn't have to prepare and give talks after all.
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  Predictions for 2016

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, it's that time of year again.

  here's a few of my predictions.

  ) no armageddon.

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  They will announce that the Great Tribulation has begun. They will point to climate change and it's devastating effects that indicate the beginning of more devastating climatic events to follow. (they always have spoken about climatic events but didn't realize that it was meant to be literal).

  It will be the beginning of a new age for JWs and the organization. The past can be forgotten as a new future looms ahead of them.

  This will bring further changes within the org. No longer will the focus be on the door to door work but there will be a greater call to begin carrying out the 'clean up' work. There will be a far greater need for money and labor. The purchase of land and building places of refuge will be hinted at but not until the HQs are finished.

  The publisher time records will change dramatically. No longer will there be a need to record the number of placements of various literature. It is not necessary to keep these figures as JW org access replaces the need for printed material. Recording of hours will include time spent on 'cleaning up' places hit by bad weather and other calamities caused by nature. The definition of divine service will now encompass more activities, which they have already alluded to.

  For the first time a concerted effort will be placed on assisting all those affected, not just JWs and by so doing, they will still be proclaiming the message of the Kingdom. God's people will be engaging in a new witness type work and although strange from a human viewpoint the all wise GB know this is what God wants.

  This strategy provides them with great blessings. More money, more assets, retaining charity status, instilling a real imminence of Armageddon and a possible growth in their numbers. They also retain their neutrality by focusing on natural disasters.