Listener

Joined

• started 199 topics
• posted 4,914 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by Listener

• 
  97

  Material such as the film at the end of this years convention confirms that I was right to take my kids out the religion

  by jambon1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it’s quite affirming to see the horrific material that they’re serving up at the convention this year.

  aside from blatant homophobia, the scenes at the end of the convention that are discussed on another thread stoop to new levels of fear mongering.

  it seems to occur to nobody inside the organisation that this kind of material could trigger fear, deprsssion, anxiety, stress.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Listener

  —hail, earthquake, flooding downpo ur, fire and sulfur, lightning, and disease.

  Thats way too hard to visualise in a movie, men with guns is much easier.
  

  
  
• 
  14

  Another flip flop

  by blownaway in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8hzakyfazc this is a talk this year about how to stay loyal to the cult.

  it talks about not blaming yourself when your child is dfed.

  but wait, when i was in the cult the elders told the parents of dfed children that it was their fault.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Listener

  It would guilt fathers into stepping down from their positions as Elders at times.
• 
  19

  Judgment Day in Russia

  by Tahoe in

  1. social
  2. current

  http://www.newsweek.com/jehovahs-witnesses-russia-are-having-their-homes-raided-even-remote-towns-934734.

  law enforcement officials in birobidzhan, russia, a small town close to the border with china, raided 20 homes belonging to jehovah’s witnesses, according to members of the religious organization.. the raids were conducted by around 150 police officers, who nicknamed their operation “judgement day,” jarrod lopes, a member of the jehovah’s witnesses, told newsweek.

  police confiscated photographs, bank cards, money and electronic devices from the houses they searched, said lopes.. a criminal case was opened against a man named alam aliev, who will be kept in pretrial detention until july, members of the religious group said.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Listener

  Maybe they feel that labelling the Governments activities as criminal or unlawful would mean they are not being politically neutral.

  If their own laws permit such actions then they can't label them as being criminal or unlawful.
• 
  27

  Weird, weird. Newest internet debate, Laurel or yanny?

  by James Mixon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i heard laurel and the wife heard yanny.

  maybe someone can post the spoken word..

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Listener

  My daughter hears Yanny and my husband hears laurel. I hear Yammy. On one of the Youtubes a person posted that they hear Yammy and there are over 400 thumbs up to that post.
• 
  13

  Who are the 144,000?

  by Canadian Sunshine in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if i am understanding correctly only 144,000 will go to heaven, to be with jesus and help rule?

  these 144,000 are witnesses only.

  there is over a million jw world wide, what happens to the rest of the faithful followers.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Listener

  They state that those of the 144,000 who have already died, were resurrected sometime after 1914 and may be conveying messages to the Governing Body. The number will be complete at the time of the Great Tribulation and the rest, or remnant, will all be in heaven before Armageddon.

  Anyone who died before Jesus are not part of the 144,000.

  The Watchtower does not explain how anointed ones know they have been chosen to rule with Christ in heaven other than generic statements like 'they know beyond doubt' and you're not supposed to ask.
• 
  26

  Interview with an Apostate: Nic-MightyV8

  by MightyV8 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  tell us a little about yourself and your family.. male, single, 62 yrs old.

  adult adhd.

  married in victoria moved back to western australia to start our lives far away from her parents as possible.. two kids, son 37 yrs old, daughter 34. both are married and still jws.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Listener

  That was great to read and thank you for your sweet comment regarding my posts.

  Once again, as do many other ex JWs, you show how rotten this religion is with its ability to destroy families.

  How dare your brother in law, Tony, tell you never to visit your mother again. Not only is this so unchristian but to have an appointed, so called religious 'shepherd' do this shows how vile this religion is.

  I guess we can be thankful that this organization promotes the idea of not having children, it seems to go hand in hand with the way it destroys families in the first place. However, it must be sad to have children who have made this decision simply because they have been persuaded to do so by the leaders of this evil organization.
• 
  31

  A non-Witnes who accepts 607 BC?

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  an eyebrow raiser to be sure.

  i can understand the clergyman being so baptist that he'd still use the name jehovah since it was popular in english and german churches for a long time during and after the reformation, but 607?.

  see ¶ 6 under the heading "the historicity of the book of daniel".

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Listener

  William Miller taught that Jerusalem fell in 606 because and the teaching was picked up as new religions developed which included the JWs and Seventh day Adventists.
• 
  12

  Get baptised or die!

  by AverageJoe1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so it would seem that the wts are going back to their old scare tactics again, going by this week’s watchtower study.. loyal baptized ones will be preserved when the present wicked world meets its end.

  (mark 13:10; rev.

  7:9, 10) this makes dedication and baptism very important.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Listener

  Yet they've previously said that only JWs as a group will be saved. Individual protection at Armageddon is no guaranteed.
• 
  17

  August 2018 Study Watchtower - Some wise words for JW's to consider!

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  do you have the facts?.

  page 3 - as true christians, we need to develop the ability to evaluate information and reach accurate conclusions.. page 4 - it is especially important to avoid (view) websites promoted by apostates.

  (awakened jw's) their whole purpose is to tear down (inform) god’s people and to distort (reveal) the truth.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Listener

  JP1692 It is literally impossible to be sure you have the facts—especially ALL the facts—if you only have a single source of information.

  That single source of information is also constantly changing. It can't be factual to begin with.
• 
  10

  Governing Body speaker ratings

  by Fay Dehr in

  1. social
  2. humour

  ok, it's time.

  we've had opportunity to observe the 8 gb members speaking ability.

  now it's our turn to give our honest ratings...using their own form, of course!

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Listener

  I don't know how a speaker can interpret his own talk. I would have thought it was the listener that does that.

  Personally, I give most of them a plus or minus C except for Splane, who gets a B.

  The other surprising aspect regarding the talk rating is their failure to rate any speaker regarding their ability to clearly and effectively discuss scripture.