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Disaster Relief Funds

by StephaneLaliberte in

if the need for relief is beyond what the congregations in the area can provide, the governing body of jehovah’s witnesses arranges to supply what is needed.

[...] since the work is performed by unpaid volunteers, the funds that are allocated go toward actual relief, not administrative expenses.

- jw site.

The other thing is that the organization gets JWs to donate to the worldwide work and not a specific fund for disaster relief therefore the organization chooses how much to contribute to disaster relief.

When they say that "the funds that are allocated go toward actual relief". This allocation comes from the organization and not from the individuals who donated. It's pretty pointless to say that none went to administration costs.

As an example a person might donate $100 where -

$99 was allocated by the organization to the WWW which includes all it's administrative costs (including the cost of flying GB members to disaster areas for 'upbuilding')
$1 was allocated by the organization specifically for disaster relief

Of course the statement that they made was true but very little of the donated money went to disaster relief, whereas an organization like Red Cross may have $100 donated to them with maybe $60 going to admin costs and $40 going to direct relief.

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* 2018 Mergers and changes to UK congregations *

by truthseeker in

jw
friends

i have a document containing a list of all congregations in the uk.

periodically i go through the links and check to see if they're still registered as charities and if the location of the congregation is the same.. instead of posting a large list of changes all at once, i will be adding each change that i find in a new reply to this thread.. please check back here periodically.. truthseeker.

Listener

It would be 'helpful' for them to merge/delete/change the name of every congregation that has a case of child abuse. It will make it more complicated to sue them.

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Any word yet on the Annual Meeting?

by careful in

it's just a week or two away and still no sign of the usual hype?

very strange.... anyone heard anything about it?

perhaps from those still in to some degree or from relatives/friends still in?.

Listener

They've either got nothing to say or it's too expensive to televise, my money is on the cost cutting.

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'Warped' Jehovah's Witness bombarded estranged wife with disturbing messages

by Tahoe in

jw
friends

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/warped-jehovahs-witness-bombarded-estranged-15205705.

an obsessive and controlling husband has been jailed for stalking his estranged wife.. a crown court judge told mark perry - a devout jehovah's witness - that he had a warped mind and sought to justify his behaviour on the basis of his religious beliefs.. .

mold crown court heard he faked a message from the police telling his wife to go to rhyl police station to identify his own body.

Listener

I hope she is safe when he gets out of jail.

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EU Court Ruling Against WT on Data-Protection

by cofty in

today's london times reports on the july ruling of the eu court that forces the organisation country to comply with data protection.. the action originated in finland but the ruling will affect every eu country.

the cult tried unsuccessfully to argue that the notes taken by jws in the door-to-door work were personal and not accessed by the congregation.

the court ruled that they are acting under the auspices of the congregation and therefore they must comply with data-protection laws.. keeping lists of do-not-calls also falls under this ruling.. why does the cult always feel that it is above the law?.

Listener

I'll try again, I lost half my post

Doubter - Personal House to House notes are not accessed by anyone other than the individual publisher. What I mean by “accessed” is that they are not handed over to the elders.
Really the only thing they all have access to is the don’t not calls. This is necessary as calling when you’re told not to come back is trespassing.

From my understanding of the legislation, if you wish to make a record regarding someone then you must get their permission. If you don't want to get their permission then making records about another person is none of your business.

It's easy to see why the organization abhors this legislation. How many people would readily give their permission to allow JWs to keep bothering them. It empowers people, not the JWs.

This applies to people that request that you do not visit, you would need to get their permission to record details.

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I'm Going to Regular Meetups at LDS Church!

by Simon in

jw
friends

yeah, i know ... who would want to step foot anywhere near a new-age religious church after being brought up a jw, right?.

i know some will already be judging me, but hold-on - it maybe even worse than you imagine!.

the group i meet-up with ... don't go inside, we never pray, we, erm, we just hang out in the car-park.. you're thinking "wtf?

Listener

It's fascinating how many people who play aren't the children / teens you'd expect -

Is this a confession? I'd be fascinated to know what you were expecting Pokemon Players to be like.

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EU Court Ruling Against WT on Data-Protection

by cofty in

today's london times reports on the july ruling of the eu court that forces the organisation country to comply with data protection.. the action originated in finland but the ruling will affect every eu country.

the cult tried unsuccessfully to argue that the notes taken by jws in the door-to-door work were personal and not accessed by the congregation.

the court ruled that they are acting under the auspices of the congregation and therefore they must comply with data-protection laws.. keeping lists of do-not-calls also falls under this ruling.. why does the cult always feel that it is above the law?.

Listener

Doubter - Personal House to House notes are not accessed by anyone other than the individual publisher. What I mean by “accessed” is that they are not handed over to the elders.
Really the only thing they all have access to is the don’t not calls. This is necessary as calling when you’re told not to come back is trespassing.

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JWs drank suspicious tea and got naked and kidnapped people

by yalbmert99 in

well, this is awkward !

these are jehovah's witnesses...lol.

http://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/naked-suspects-in-nisku-kidnapping-may-have-consumed-hallucinogenic-tea-1.3671452.

Listener

Their Elders will be demanding to know where were their go bags.

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Raise a beer jug to our German activists!

by Darth FayDehr in

https://youtu.be/ps00pof7lj4.

Listener

Thanks Darth.

The figures presented show 1,075 Kingdom Halls in 2011 and 940 Kingdom Halls in 2018, a loss of 135 Kingdom Halls in seven years in Germany. Great news.

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WT Recruiting JW Solicitors (Lawyers)

by AverageJoe1 in

we all know how much the watchtower abhors "higher education" and that apparently jehovah thinks it is a big waste of time.

at least that is their official stance.

it might come as a shock to you that this month they have started a campaign drive to actually recruit jws who have higher education, specifically those who have legal training.. with all the law suits against them for creating an environment that is friendly to paedophiles, it is thus no wonder that they are in need of solicitors, especially those who are sympathetic towards the cult.. talk about hypocrisy!.

Listener

The incredible thing is that they talk down higher education. An Elder could lose his position if he has a son or daughter go to long term college. The org. even stopped supporting Bethelites from undertaking legal degrees. Yet if you are now a lawyer you are privelaged by being able to work for the GB.