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WT-Closing In On 50 Subpoenas!

by Atlantis in

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more subpoenas have been added.

so the watchtower is getting close to 50. i think there are about 44 of them listed here.

brumley the witchhunter!.

Listener

As representatives of Jehovah's earthly organization they would want to be very careful with what they put in their letters.

In Lloyds video he read out a letter they had sent to him over a year ago threatening legal action if he didn't do all that they were demanding. You can't bully someone or demand that they stop doing something if it is not illegal, they are stepping out of line.

Since he didn't do all that they demanded then they have to proceed with legal action or they prove themselves to be deliberate liars.

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Ending Bible Study

by Maria Nieves in

i have been studying with jehovah's witnesses for approximately two years.

initially, i liked the studies and felt that i was growing closer to god.

however, as the studies progressed, they seemed to become increasingly negative and i did not like what i was being taught.

Listener

I picked up this idea elsewhere and thought it was a good suggestion.

You could get the JW a small gift and thank them for the studies that you have had together. Explain that you've gone as far as you are happy with and don't feel you would get anything out of studying any further.

By giving a gift you allow yourself to feel less guilty and your kindness makes easier when you meet in public.

Not that you should feel guilty anyway. As already mentioned, you should have been dropped as a study long ago as you weren't 'progressing' by their standards and that is what they have been told to do. Also, the JW was doing nothing extraordinary as they've been trained to do this. They record their study time and get to mark it down as a study. They report this to their Elders with pride. It's not just in your interest that they have been doing this in the first place. They also expect that most of their studies will not get baptised eventually.

Currently it takes over 12,000 witnessing hours to get one new recruit and that new recruit may be a family member so it takes many more hours to recruit others.

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Ending Bible Study

by Maria Nieves in

i have been studying with jehovah's witnesses for approximately two years.

initially, i liked the studies and felt that i was growing closer to god.

however, as the studies progressed, they seemed to become increasingly negative and i did not like what i was being taught.

Listener

As Stan says, say no.

A lot of JWs will pressure their studies to do more the longer they study. This is what they are trained to do.

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Angus Stewart QC appointed as Federal Court Judge in Australia

by Listener in

angus stewart who did such a tremendous job in exposing many of the wrongs regarding how the watchtower deals with child abuse accusations during the australian royal commission into the handling of child abuse has been given a well deserved appointment.a media release on 22 feb. 2019 states in part -.

mr darren jackson sc, mr michael o'bryan qc, mr angus stewart sc and mr john snaden have been appointed as judges of the federal court of australia...mr stewart will commence in the sydney registry on 25 february 2019. he completed a bachelor of arts in 1986 and a bachelor of laws in 1991 at the university of natal in south africa, and completed a bachelor of civil law (hons) at the university of oxford in 1994. mr stewart practised at the bar in south africa for 15 years, with five years as silk.

he was called to the new south wales bar in 2011 and was appointed silk in 2014. mr stewart has specialised in admiralty and maritime law, international trade and international commercial arbitration, in addition to practice across a number of other areas of law.. https://www.attorneygeneral.gov.au/media/pages/appointments-to-the-federal-court-of-australia.aspx

Listener

Angus Stewart who did such a tremendous job in exposing many of the wrongs regarding how the Watchtower deals with child abuse accusations during the Australian Royal Commission into the handling of child abuse has been given a well deserved appointment.

A media release on 22 Feb. 2019 states in part -

Mr Darren Jackson SC, Mr Michael O'Bryan QC, Mr Angus Stewart SC and Mr John Snaden have been appointed as judges of the Federal Court of Australia...

Mr Stewart will commence in the Sydney registry on 25 February 2019. He completed a Bachelor of Arts in 1986 and a Bachelor of Laws in 1991 at the University of Natal in South Africa, and completed a Bachelor of Civil Law (Hons) at the University of Oxford in 1994. Mr Stewart practised at the Bar in South Africa for 15 years, with five years as silk. He was called to the New South Wales Bar in 2011 and was appointed silk in 2014. Mr Stewart has specialised in admiralty and maritime law, international trade and international commercial arbitration, in addition to practice across a number of other areas of law.

https://www.attorneygeneral.gov.au/Media/Pages/Appointments-to-the-Federal-Court-of-Australia.aspx

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OK, We Need To Talk About The Crazy New Great Tribulation Video...

by pale.emperor in

if you haven't seen it already, skip to 1:14:30 in lloyds video and watch the craziness unfold.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2y7f7-k5wo.

i'd love to hear everyone's thoughts on this.. they're digging themselves a great hole here, in about 30 years time they'll be claiming this video was a mere "speculation" and that "some people" got the wrong ideas..

Listener

Rattingan, could you explain what this business model is that he has found and is it just speculation or has he found factual evidence?

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Trending from Germany

by Tiana in

https://www.pnp.de/lokales/landkreis_dingolfing_landau/3229444_randalierer-verwuesten-autos-und-werfen-gebaeudetuer-ein-5000-euro-schaden.html.

google translate :.

dingolfing.

Listener

It's unclear that only the JWs were targeted if the cars were spread over a few streets and there was something stolen out of one of the cars.

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Babies Who Are Not Dead From An Abortion

by minimus in

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a woman gets an abortion.

the baby is supposed to die because of the abortion but doesn’t.

should that living baby be put to death or should the baby be given medical help to survive?.

Listener

I would never choose to have an abortion. I had a miscarriage at 3 months and it was heart breaking, I realised then that having an abortion would be agonising.

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New Upcoming Changes - No More Publisher Record Cards & Reporting Hours

by thedepressedsoul in

publisher record cards and reporting hours will be going away.

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coming soon.. made this post 4 years ago, it happened - https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/24020002/kingdom-consolidation-sales-coming-reliable-source.

Listener

I think No Zombie is on the money with this

Its not that hard to imagine this to occur, if it is linked to the unique publisher id number system, said to be in development.

The unique publisher id is in development and was announced at an internal meeting which was leaked. I think they said that not all JWs would require an id but whether they just meant inactive JWs would not be on the system was not specified.

Individuals could log into their own number or have someone assist them. There would be no need for paper publisher cards but I can't see that reporting hours would go, it would make it much easier for the organization. They would probably link it to their email and could remind publishers when they haven't reported.

They are very slow for such a fast moving organization to get this in place.

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7 Jehovah’s Witnesses Brutally Tortured in Russia

by Drearyweather in

https://jw-russia.org/en/news/19021923-622.html.

at least seven of jehovah’s witnesses were subjected to torture—electric shocks, suffocation, and cruel beatings—on the first floor of the russian investigative committee’s building at ul.

ostrovskogo, d. 47, in surgut.

Listener

Corney - The "laws" violated by Witnesses are injust and unconstitutional. Would you blame those who break "laws" criminalizing "sodomy" or "apostasy" and those who support them?

Regardless of whether they are unjust or not, they are Russian laws that the JWs broke and continue to break.

Legal actions certainly will benefit the actual and potential victims, including every JW and every Russian (torture is a common method of investigation there).

It's horrific that they use torture as a common method of investigation. As to how much legal action by the Watchtower Society will help or will make the Russian Government retaliate further is to be seen.

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7 Jehovah’s Witnesses Brutally Tortured in Russia

by Drearyweather in

https://jw-russia.org/en/news/19021923-622.html.

at least seven of jehovah’s witnesses were subjected to torture—electric shocks, suffocation, and cruel beatings—on the first floor of the russian investigative committee’s building at ul.

ostrovskogo, d. 47, in surgut.

Listener

The fact is that it is highly unlikely that they would do either of those things. It's had several years to take action.

The Watchtower will do what it wants and often doesn't give a damn about the consequences or deliberately stirs up trouble. They have already done this in regards to Russia.

They flooded their public mail system with letters, getting JWs to send more than one per person and in their own language. They made them put their own names on those letters.

Only recently they made it publically known that they considered Russia to be the King of the North and to add further insult they said they prayed about this, as if to suggest it was their God who approved of this announcement.

They have Sanderson discuss issues regarding Russia who not only has a cheesy smile but comes across as delighted by what's been going on.

They are happy for JWs in Russia to be breaking the law. There is no requirement in the bible for them to be holding meetings in their homes and they continue to do so. No doubt there are other laws that they are breaking. They don't mention what charge the two detained JW's were placed under. They are going to be charged if they are caught breaking the law and they are being closely watched.

They have just said that they will pursue every legal avenue possible. Why did they announce this? It wasn't for their own benefit, it was to warn Russia. This would only make the Russian Government more angry and that only causes more misery for the JWs in Russia.