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  3-File Requests: Destroy Notes BOE--Publications For Discard--Where Are The Nine!

  by Atlantis in

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  2. friends

  2019-08-28 destroy notes.. https://docdro.id/ojsdss2.

  2012--2018 publications approved for discard.

  https://docdro.id/llottt0.

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  Listener

  The note taking letter helps to expose JW leaders.

  It instructs Elders not to take notes so that the heart condition may be shown through wild talk from the sinner and not to be offended by any wild talk.

  It's gross to think that they want the pedophile to 'talk wildly' about the things they did but more sickening that they instruct Elders not to be offended. Anyone, other than the pedophile or sick individuals, would be seriously offended to hear these crimes.

  I would love a lawyer to show that letter in court.
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  Social Security/ Center link/ dept of human service or whatever name they are on this week

  by zeb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this large australian govt dept is the one that pays the pensions to the aged, the broken, the invalids, the unemployed.

  they are running a campaign to claim back 'overpayment' from the least able to resist,and in recently revealed cases even the deceased.. no media org or politician will take up the challenge of naming the authors of this insidious action.

  if the dept with all its resources overpays and that is a big if then that is their problem to deal with not screw the hapless, the downtrodden and the aged all in all the defenceless.. pensioners are now living in fear they will be sent the dreaded letter to say 'pay up'.

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  Last year we needed to assist someone who had received a letter asking them to substantiate their payments received four years ago.
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  Whatever is bound on EARTH is already Loosed in Heaven

  by Alex Williams in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when a person is guilty and worthy of punishment, the judgment ‘will already have been bound in heaven jesus said and if they are loosed or innocent it will already have been “loosed in heaven..in such judicial deliberations, jesus says, “where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there i am in their midst.” .

  psalm 127:3.. children are a sacred trust, “an inheritance from jehovah.

  jws abhor child abuse and view it as a crime.its recognized that the authorities are responsible for addressing such crimes.jws do not shield any perpetrator of child abuse from the authorities as has been alleged.

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  Listener

  From the recent Watchtower

  Cases of alleged abuse are reported to secular authorities if required by local laws or as instructed by the local branch office.

  Thanks Alex, I missed that comment first time around.

  Its been come knowledge to most of us that they claim that they will call the Police if they are required to do so by law. What we aren't aware of is if it's not required by law then the branch office may still instruct (whomever???) to call Police.

  They do not explain under what circumstances they would direct someone to call the police.

  They also don't explain that this happens rarely, if ever. Why even mention it?

  It's just more of Watchtower's slippery talk. They make it sound like the Branch directs the Elders to call the Police and that is why they need to call the Branch. It explains why a lot of JWs believe that the Elders do make sure the Police are told.
  
  
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  Watchtower reveals some property stats - incomplete but interesting

  by Corney in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  interesting screenshots of internal wt databases appear in the 2018 coordinators' committee report video (that's in fact a presentation of their hub software) at 6:34-6:50. they contain, among others, the following information:.

  there are 61,349 kingdom halls and 841 assembly halls;.

  4,308 properties are held for sale, including 2,925 khs;.

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  Listener

  Thanks Corney. I've just been looking at this myself. Kim and Mikey did a YouTube on it.

  Nowhere does the Watchtower say that the screenshots of the HuB database is accurate or just a mock presentation, so there is no representation to say these are real figures.

  I am puzzled about a screen shot around the 6.00 minute mark that includes publisher figures for certain countries that, for the most part, don't reconcile to the 2018 figures in the Yearbook. The presenter is discussing how the information on HuB allows them to easily see print quantities.

  The figure for USA is 8,196 congregations, 861,575 publishers 116,629 pioneers

  The figure for Canada is 962 congregations, 84,831 publishers, 7,945 pioneers

  I would have thought that if this was the number of a publication required then it is too high and if it is the actual number of publishers then it is very low compared to the Yearbook figures.

  Like any good, modern business, they've registered the HuB logo and you'll catch a glimpse of a coffee mug with the logo on it.
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  I genuinely burst out laughing.................

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ...when i read a reply to an email which i sent to a devout couple of jw's, showing the luxurious accommodation which "vows of poverty" jw's have been living in.. https://ibsaproperty.com.

  the reply began by apologising for their "bad french.

  " brilliant!

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  I used to think that Rutherford's Beth Sarim and Cadilacs were over the top but the number of these luxury houses being sold in England alone is staggering.
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  First visit to Kingdom Hall turned out to be a nightmare!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a first time visit to a kingdom hall turned out to be a nightmare for this young lady.. .

  https://www.azfamily.com/news/man-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-teen-girl-outside-glendale-church/article_2fe560c0-c36b-11e9-997b-fb25195e2ed1.html .

  atlantis!

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  What a terrible attack that was on a young JW by a fellow JW.
  
  The Elders couldn't hide this from the Police as the whole congregation would have known about it at the time.
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  "Armageddon is imminent!"

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  remember top shelf tony da turd broadcasting that world wide 2 years ago at the end of the convention?

  well 2 years later do we see the slightest hint of the nation's declaring peace and security or going after religion?

  so how was it imminent?

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  Listener

  The June 1993 Watchtower claims that a Christian should believe it is imminent and only then can they be 'of sound mind'

  [6. Why must we be sound in mind?

  6 Despite all the watching, no one will ever figure out in advance the exact day he is due to come. Jesus says: “On this account you too prove yourselves ready, because at an hour that you do not think to be it, the Son of man is coming.” (Matthew 24:44) Hence the need for soundness of mind. If a Christian were to think that on a certain day, Christ would not come, perhaps that would be the very day that he did come! Of course, well-meaning, faithful Christians in the past have sincerely tried to predict when the end would come. Yet, Jesus’ caution has been proved true time and time again: “Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.”​—Matthew 24:36.

  7. To be followers of Christ, how must we live our lives?

  7 What, therefore, should we conclude? That to be followers of Christ, we have to live always believing that the end of this wicked system is imminent.]

  'Imminent' is just another buzz word this cult uses. Saying that a person must be ready or on the watch because nobody knows the day or the hour is vastly different from claiming it is imminent.
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  In Los Angeles today-Facebook LIVE at 11 am PST. The Zalkin Law Firm has big News Conference

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.facebook.com/zalkinlawfirm/ - facebook live today at 11 am pst.

  the zalkin law firm - in la today, big news conference about a childhood sexual abuse survivor filing a lawsuit against the jehovah's witnesses..

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  Kevin, the child abuse survivor, talks about there being two other victims of this Elder, one whom he can't locate and the other who doesn't want to take it to court as he is still a JW. Who knows how many other victims there were.
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  Tasmania’s Government agrees to reform sexual abuse gag law by end of year

  by Xjw csaSurvivors in

  1. social
  2. current

  https://www.news.com.au/national/courts-law/tasmanias-government-agrees-to-reform-sexual-abuse-gag-law-by-end-of-year/news-story/40669f3504f182d1424af892c042cee0.

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  Their delay in reforming doesn't help their reputation of being 'inbreds'.
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  Watchtower 2016 tax return

  by Bad_Wolf in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  this is the watchtower 2016 tax return.

  where are donations and expenses going?

  seems nothing going through watchtower!?.

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  Listener

  You are looking at the WTBTS of New York, there is also the WTBTS of Pennsylvania which I think used to be the main entity although there could be a whole new entity that now exists.