Sorry, didn't mean to hit the submit button on previous post. Thanks Flipper for the response. My daughter is an adult & was at the time. When she told me some of the questions they asked I tried to defend them. At the time I was still actively attending meetings & going out in service. I just had a really hard time not talking to her. Anyway I've successfully faded for the past year & a half. My daughter and I are best friends,always were. Some of these guys are truly perverted & use their position to get sexual thrills,and they are trusted with the info you give them. Blind trust!
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56June 15th WT ( again) JW's told " Elders are Imperfect " Give them a Break
by flipper inthis is one subject that really annoyed me when i was a jehovah's witness - and i find it still annoys me after being out 7 years from the jw's.
the title of this jw only wt study article is " have regard for those who are working hard among you ".
in my opinion there always seemed to be a double standard in which rank and file publishers were always told to be patient with elders shortcomings - however if rank and file publishers slipped up - elders would be into admonishing and disciplining them like flies attracted to dung with no delay.
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June 15th WT ( again) JW's told " Elders are Imperfect " Give them a Break
by flipper inthis is one subject that really annoyed me when i was a jehovah's witness - and i find it still annoys me after being out 7 years from the jw's.
the title of this jw only wt study article is " have regard for those who are working hard among you ".
in my opinion there always seemed to be a double standard in which rank and file publishers were always told to be patient with elders shortcomings - however if rank and file publishers slipped up - elders would be into admonishing and disciplining them like flies attracted to dung with no delay.
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June 15th WT ( again) JW's told " Elders are Imperfect " Give them a Break
by flipper inthis is one subject that really annoyed me when i was a jehovah's witness - and i find it still annoys me after being out 7 years from the jw's.
the title of this jw only wt study article is " have regard for those who are working hard among you ".
in my opinion there always seemed to be a double standard in which rank and file publishers were always told to be patient with elders shortcomings - however if rank and file publishers slipped up - elders would be into admonishing and disciplining them like flies attracted to dung with no delay.
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My daughter was dfd for fornication. One of the elders on her jc continuously asked her questions, very personal that made her feel as though he were living a sexual fantasy through her kind of like a peeping tom. I guess the jc justifies this as this is how they conclude whether or not she was repentant. Asked one time o.k. to keep asking it was as though he got something sexual from this. Three men ,one woman, your already uncomfortable explaining it. Anyone else experience this?
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Debate This
by Farkel ini wrote this in december last year.
i won't be writing much more, but i do think this topic needs some debate.. it never received any when posted.
where are the watchtower or other apologists who can argue this?
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Wow! I just finished reading what you wrote in Dec. It makes so much sense. The next time I get a chance I have to bring this point of view up to my son who is still in, not very active, but believes its the true religon. I've been fading for the past year & a-half, only because he's still in & pretty much goes with what the GB says. You do have an impressive explanation. Thanks! I'm so sorry to hear that your dying.
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Do you think a lot of JWs are ashamed of their beliefs?
by I quit! inthe reason i asked this is because i'm going to the funeral of a man who wasn't a jw.
my mother-in-law has lived in the same neighborhood as him for years and knows his wife.
i asked her if she was going attend the funeral service.
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I don't admit to having been a JW. I have a different job since I faded & I don't want anyone to ask me any questions. I answered enough & explained enough all my life. It's great to be able to say Happy New Year, Happy birthday etc. without having to explain why you don't celebrate them.
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Agree 100% with willyloman. Iwish I could have met Ray & his wife. It saddened me that they put off having children because of what the governing body spouted. An excellent book. His story told in such a kind & graceful manner.
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What's Your Favorite TV Show Right Now?
by minimus ini love criminal minds and the newest criminal minds that was showcased last night.
and i love law & order svu!.
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Why would abandoning 1914 mean they are not chosen by God?
by InterestedOne ini've read here that if the wt admits 607 is wrong or if 1914 is wrong, the logical result is that god did not choose them as his org.
can someone explain to me how that logically follows?.
couldn't they just say, "we have received new light on that, have learned that we cannot give a specific date (like how they abandoned 1935), but look, we adhere to the bible more strictly than anyone else, we strive to 'keep the cong clean' more than any other group, etc., so therefore, we must be chosen by god as his only org.
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They always refer to the light getting brighter, Proverbs 4:18,however, it's contrasting rightousness and wickedness. It is not referrring to advanced knowledge or understanding. It is another example of scripture taken out of context to further their own agenda.
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Feb. 15th WT - WT Society says DFed Ones are Lawless- Just Like Demons
by flipper ini would assume that some or a good number of us here as normal humans in this society - consider " lawless " actions to include murder , robbery, extortion, rape, child abuse, war , terrorism, etc.
the wt society has their own definition of what's considered " lawless ".
anything that's considered a disfellowshipping offense in the jehovah's witnesses is now considered " lawless ".
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You talk to others about what you say here! Where exactly do you tell them you do your talking? You obviously know that many here are disassociated or df'd so how do you justify this in your own conscience? Aren't we the very ones that you should shun ? I must be a sadist because I will continue to punish myself & never step foot in a k.h. again & FYI I'm not df'd. We have a freedom here you can't begin to understand. Kudos to Mr. Flipper & all who respond to this sheep that has strayed from the wt pen.
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Disfellowshiped ARE REQUIRED to sit in the library!
by brotherdan inmy mother-in-law is making leaps and bounds in her progress to get out of the watchtower.
for those of you that don't know, she is df'd but has been working on "coming back".
recently i've been able to exchange emails about the dangers of the organization and share jesus with her.
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It makes me so mad how they've treated your MIL. Especially since she's trying to get reinstated. I'm glad it is opening her eyes to the unloving unchristian ways of the pharisees. Where is the mercy and compassion Jesus spoke of? They should be so ashamed of their self. Kudos to awen! Would love to have been a fly so as to see the look on that elders face when you partook. Priceless!