Wow what a convoluted way to explain it!
What did you find "convoluted" about the explanation I provided?
Convoluted - highly complex or intricate and occasionally devious;"convoluted reasoning"
How many paragraphs and posts did it take you to explain and defend this "new light"? I offered a 4 sentence explanation. Truth is simple. Either Christ's presence started at another date and no one noticed; or it hasn't started yet. And why do you resort to insulting my reading comprehension and insinuating I worship Satan? Does your belief that you know the only "truth" give you that right? Does it make you feel righteous or superior? The difference between you and most everyone else on this forum is that we can openly discuss new ideas and adapt our truth to new evidence we find. It must be frustrating to watch.
And you still ignore 1914. It's so simple. They were wrong! Maybe you should examine that angle. What prevents you from doing so? All they have to do is say they were wrong, call it "new light"! But then they'd have to find a new date, to keep the sense of urgency, or consider that we may not be living in the time of the end; which, I understand, would probably be the demise of your religion. The original, and second or third redrawing of their map, was wrong. Even if they keep redrawing that map, because they haven't fixed the error, the map's still wrong and you're still lost.
Matthew 24 11 "Many false prophets will arise and will mislead many. 23 "Then if anyone says to you, 'Behold, here is the Christ,' or 'There He is,' do not believe him. 24 "For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect. 25 "Behold, I have told you in advance. 35 "Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will not pass away. 36 "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone.
2 Corinthians 1:12 For our rejoicing is this, the testimony of our conscience, that in simplicity and godly sincerity, not with fleshly wisdom, but by the grace of God, we have had our conversation in the world, and more abundantly to you-ward.
2 Corinthians 4:1-2 Since through God's mercy we have this ministry, we do not lose heart. Rather, we have renounced secret and shameful ways; we do not use deception, nor do we distort the word of God. On the contrary, by setting forth the truth plainly we commend ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.
2 Cor. 11 3 But I am afraid that, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, your minds will be led astray from the simplicity and purity of devotion to Christ. 4 For if one comes and preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted, you bear this beautifully. 13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. 14 No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is not surprising if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness, whose end will be according to their deeds.
2 Peter 2:1-3 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
1 John 2:20-21 But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth. I do not write to you because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it and because no lie comes from the truth.
Your response, in regards to disfellowshipping, was full of outright lies; especially considering that JW family can be disfellowshipped for not heeding advice to stop associating with their disfellowshipped relatives. And as to the Governing Body, the holy spirit doesn't lie, truth doesn't lie, Jehovah doesn't lie. They're either directed by it or not. They're either Jehovah's organization or not. And don't claim they've never lied. I, and everyone else on this forum, know they have.
