Oh, snap.
Yes, but don't we all have a tendency to think we've won when what's really happened is we haven't understood?
Nickolas
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More on Saturday's drama: Endo-symbiotic theory mentioned not once but twice
by sir82 ini don't want to give a full synopsis of saturday's drama, for fear of inducing stupor among this thread's readers, but.... .
the drama deals with a jw family with 3 kids, 2 of whom are in various stages of rebellion against all things jw.. the older brother is one of the "rebels", while the younger brother is a thoroughly annoying piece of brown-nosing crapola, completely buying into the jw mindset.. anyways, the younger brother is asking the older brother about why he doesn't want to attend the family study any more.. the older kid's rambling answer touches on something along the lines of "i'm learning things in school about how life really came here.
it's not as simple as you think!".
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How important are God and Jesus to you?
by Nickolas ini ask this question because it goes to:.
- how disposed to objectively considering contrarian evidence you are, and.
- how much i might be messing with your life and happiness by helping you see things the way i do.. i read the posts of many people on this board who are apparently happy, even deliriously happy, with their theism.
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If that's true, maybe I shouldn't try to convince them they're wrong.
Yes, I've harboured that sentiment, myself. Those who don't kill their neighbour because God has forbidden it and will punish them for it but then discover there is no God will be inclined to kill their neighbour. However, that is the description of a religious psychopath and although they exist they are in fringe minority, just as are atheistic psychopaths.
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How important are God and Jesus to you?
by Nickolas ini ask this question because it goes to:.
- how disposed to objectively considering contrarian evidence you are, and.
- how much i might be messing with your life and happiness by helping you see things the way i do.. i read the posts of many people on this board who are apparently happy, even deliriously happy, with their theism.
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Yes and no, NomadSoul. Yes, the thought that I might see my loved ones again is an appealing one to me and believing it would help my emotions to stay on a more even keel. But, no, what is important to me is truth. That's all.
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How important are God and Jesus to you?
by Nickolas ini ask this question because it goes to:.
- how disposed to objectively considering contrarian evidence you are, and.
- how much i might be messing with your life and happiness by helping you see things the way i do.. i read the posts of many people on this board who are apparently happy, even deliriously happy, with their theism.
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I ask this question because it goes to:
- how disposed to objectively considering contrarian evidence you are, and
- how much I might be messing with your life and happiness by helping you see things the way I do.
I read the posts of many people on this board who are apparently happy, even deliriously happy, with their theism. They truly have a deep, abiding love for God and Jesus and they seem to derive considerable joy and satisfaction from talking to others about it. My theory is that many, if not most, of these deeply pious individuals are incapable of considering contrarian evidence objectively because to do so would put their faith in danger. I'm putting this forward as a possibility. Perhaps my perceptions are all wrong. The prospect of not believing in God and Jesus seems completely foreign, even inconceivable for many of the board's minions. To lose faith in God would be akin to watching one of your children get run over by a bus. Horrifying. When you consider that parents have allowed their children to die rather than test their faith in Jehovah and His Organization, you know that this is true.
Would your life implode if you lost your faith? Should atheists just back off and not try to mess up your good thing, if only to keep them from wasting their time?
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More on Saturday's drama: Endo-symbiotic theory mentioned not once but twice
by sir82 ini don't want to give a full synopsis of saturday's drama, for fear of inducing stupor among this thread's readers, but.... .
the drama deals with a jw family with 3 kids, 2 of whom are in various stages of rebellion against all things jw.. the older brother is one of the "rebels", while the younger brother is a thoroughly annoying piece of brown-nosing crapola, completely buying into the jw mindset.. anyways, the younger brother is asking the older brother about why he doesn't want to attend the family study any more.. the older kid's rambling answer touches on something along the lines of "i'm learning things in school about how life really came here.
it's not as simple as you think!".
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you still do.
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More on Saturday's drama: Endo-symbiotic theory mentioned not once but twice
by sir82 ini don't want to give a full synopsis of saturday's drama, for fear of inducing stupor among this thread's readers, but.... .
the drama deals with a jw family with 3 kids, 2 of whom are in various stages of rebellion against all things jw.. the older brother is one of the "rebels", while the younger brother is a thoroughly annoying piece of brown-nosing crapola, completely buying into the jw mindset.. anyways, the younger brother is asking the older brother about why he doesn't want to attend the family study any more.. the older kid's rambling answer touches on something along the lines of "i'm learning things in school about how life really came here.
it's not as simple as you think!".
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Nickolas
"Endo-symbiotic theory? Oh, that was discussed in detail at our district convention (they even mentioned it twice!) and it was thoroughly debunked! Or at least I thnk it is, in that brochure we got last year. Anyways, it can't possibly be true, because if man evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys? So, who wants to go to Dunkin Donuts now?"
Oh, but that is perfectly done.
I don't know if that made sense.
Very clear. Excellent analogy.
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More on Saturday's drama: Endo-symbiotic theory mentioned not once but twice
by sir82 ini don't want to give a full synopsis of saturday's drama, for fear of inducing stupor among this thread's readers, but.... .
the drama deals with a jw family with 3 kids, 2 of whom are in various stages of rebellion against all things jw.. the older brother is one of the "rebels", while the younger brother is a thoroughly annoying piece of brown-nosing crapola, completely buying into the jw mindset.. anyways, the younger brother is asking the older brother about why he doesn't want to attend the family study any more.. the older kid's rambling answer touches on something along the lines of "i'm learning things in school about how life really came here.
it's not as simple as you think!".
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It makes much more sense to cite actual theory (especially out of context or with no context at all) than to cite something bogus. When those exposed to this cheesy little drama subsequently hear mention of endo-symbiotic theory they will shut down their brains and not hear another thing. Another arrow in the quiver of JW mind control. There is nothing more ludicrous than the amused sneer on the face of a Witness when mention is made of scientific theory about which they know nothing but have come to believe they know everything. Such wanton ignorance deserves nothing but contempt. Contempt for the Watchtower and contempt for those who swallow its misinformation with eager abandon.
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A Shot Out to the Vid That Got Me Out!
by Diest ini had not been to meetings in a long time, but i still had lingering guilt over what happens if the big a comes when i am out.
i found this video on youtube, which put the first nail in the coffin for the wt.
the posters on this site put in the final 32 nails and put the wt in hades for me.
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Theology
by sabastious intheology is the study of religion and religions are human systems of spirituality.
it could then be said that theology is the study of the applications of human spirituality.
human spirituality is a chosen way of life.
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( not getting into the argument of the immoral acts attributed to God in the OT)
An observation not unique to my own is that many Christians dismiss the immorality of the OT by pointing out that the Law has been superceded and one must look to the NT for guidance on morality. But it seems that the long arm of the OT repeatedly reaches forward into the NT to remind us what God really wants. In Acts 12:21-23 Harrod is struck down by an angel and eaten by worms because he didn't praise God. In Acts 5:1-10 a property owner sold his land and delivered most of the cash to the Apostles, but because he kept some of it for himself he and his wife were struck down and killed. In Luke 9:59-62 a man whose father has just died wishes to bury him first before following Christ but is told to let the dead take care of themselves and ordered to go out and prosthelytise, another man who wishes to say goodbye to his family is similarly instructed. In Luke 14:26 Jesus tells his followers to hate their families and their own lives if they wish to follow him. In Matthew 10:34-36 Jesus proclaims that he has come not to bring peace but to turn family members against one another. In Luke 18:29-30 Jesus promises eternal reward for those who leave their wives and children to follow him. In Ephesians 5:22-24, Colossians 3:18, 1 Peter 3:1, 1 Corinthians 11:3 and 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 we see the mysogeny of the NT, where women are commanded to be in subjection to their husbands and in 1 Timothy 2:9 they are instructed how they may dress themselves. Mark 7:9–13 and Matthew 15:4–7 reach back into the OT to rehash the admonition that children who do not honour their parents should be put to death. Same goes for Matthew 5:18–19, Luke 16:17, 2 Timothy 3:16, and John 7:19 in which the currency of the old Law is not dismissed but affirmed. And we don't even have to get into the glorious destruction of billions depicted in Revelation.
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Theology
by sabastious intheology is the study of religion and religions are human systems of spirituality.
it could then be said that theology is the study of the applications of human spirituality.
human spirituality is a chosen way of life.
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A christian pedophile is far worse than one that refuse to accept a moral code that keeps him from being a pedophile, because a Christian is suppose to KNOW BETTER
you see, that's where we have a disconnect. A pedophile is a pedophile regardless of what he believes. I understand and agree that Christianity has provided a moral compass for many people, that they would be inclined to be immoral, even evil, without it. All that means is that their morality is artificial and they are immoral or evil people at the core of themselves. If they lose their faith, a not unusual occurance among Christians, they may be expected to do objectionable things. Religion was probably the single greatest contributor to the civilisation of the human species, but we have matured. I for one no longer need the threat of punishment or promise of eternal reward to be a moral individual. The source of my morality is my love for my fellow human beings and the sense of inner peace it brings me to follow the golden rule. The golden rule is the only moral compass you need.