Here's another. Jesus never existed. Resurrection is a myth.
Ask yourself, are those whom the Bible has claimed were resurrected still among us or did they die a second time, only to be resurrected again? Nonsense.
Nickolas
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4 versions of Jesus resurrection- all different
by purrpurr ini've been reading more and studying about the bible .
it was brought to my notice that out of the four different versions of jesus resurrection they do not back each other up.
instead they contradict each other a lot.
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Is Satan really a liar, and the father of the lie?
by Israel Ricky Gonzales in5 for god knows that in the very day you eat from it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like god, knowing good and bad.. .
genesis 3:22. jehovah god then said: here the man has become like one of us in knowing good and bad..".
for god knows that in the very day you eat from it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like god, knowing good and bad.?.
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Nickolas
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Is Satan really a liar, and the father of the lie?
by Israel Ricky Gonzales in5 for god knows that in the very day you eat from it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like god, knowing good and bad.. .
genesis 3:22. jehovah god then said: here the man has become like one of us in knowing good and bad..".
for god knows that in the very day you eat from it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like god, knowing good and bad.?.
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Nickolas
Satan doesn't exist. Neither does Jehovah. That's the consciousness hurdle ahead. It's a tall one certainly. Seek truth with an open mind. Hard to do. You've been indoctrinated. You likely still believe much of what the Watchtower told you is The Truth. Be prepared to learn that none of it is true. -
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Pope's Powerful Christmas Message
by skeeter1 inpope francis has denounced the "brutal persecution" of religious and ethnic minorities, in his traditional christmas day address.. in his second "urbi et orbi" - to the city and the world - christmas message, the pontiff highlighted the plight of victims of conflict in syria and iraq.. "too many people are being held hostage or massacred" in nigeria, he added.
pope francis also urged dialogue between israelis and palestinians and condemned taliban attacks in pakistan.. tens of thousands of people turned out on st peter's square to hear the argentine pope deliver his annual message.. he said christians in iraq and syria had endured conflict for too long, and "together with those belonging to other ethnic and religious groups, are suffering a brutal persecution".. "may christmas bring them hope, as indeed also to the many displaced persons, exiles and refugees, children, adults and elderly, from this region and from the whole world," the pope said.. .
******and, what did the governing body talk about when they addressed the world of jehovah's witnesses earlier this month?
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Nickolas
Against what I thought was the usual trend in this forum to lament a medium sized cult, defending the head of The Holy Roman Catholic Church seems out of sync. But he is indeed The Pope. He has risen to the top of the richest and second largest religious group in the world after Islam. Francis is also a man. He is not infallible, as were all popes up until very recently.
Francis has done nothing yet but talk. I like that he acknowledges Big Bang and Evolutionary theory - or does he? We can't be sure. He said recently that animal souls go to heaven. Then his publicists say he didn't really say that, or that's not what he meant to say. If Francis succeeds in turning the Roman Catholic Church onto its head I will quietly cheer him on. The crumbling down of empire is sometimes aided by the best intentions of its leader. It would be ironic and deeply satisfying if Francis should turn out to be another Gorbachev.
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Pope's Powerful Christmas Message
by skeeter1 inpope francis has denounced the "brutal persecution" of religious and ethnic minorities, in his traditional christmas day address.. in his second "urbi et orbi" - to the city and the world - christmas message, the pontiff highlighted the plight of victims of conflict in syria and iraq.. "too many people are being held hostage or massacred" in nigeria, he added.
pope francis also urged dialogue between israelis and palestinians and condemned taliban attacks in pakistan.. tens of thousands of people turned out on st peter's square to hear the argentine pope deliver his annual message.. he said christians in iraq and syria had endured conflict for too long, and "together with those belonging to other ethnic and religious groups, are suffering a brutal persecution".. "may christmas bring them hope, as indeed also to the many displaced persons, exiles and refugees, children, adults and elderly, from this region and from the whole world," the pope said.. .
******and, what did the governing body talk about when they addressed the world of jehovah's witnesses earlier this month?
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Nickolas
It would be much braver to speak up against the mob he leads. Time will tell what they will allow him to do, how far they will allow him to go, what they may do to stop him if, indeed, it turns out he is more than just a talented orator.
And he may just try to move mountains, this one. He is, after all, first and foremost a Jesuit. After centuries of keeping the troublesome Jesuits under its thumb Rome has for the very first time elected one to absolute power. Eyebrows were raised. One wonders what all those cardinals had in mind, if they knew what they were doing. Is it just the pendulum swinging fully back after having put a former Hitler youth and protector of pedophiles in charge, whose resignation they quietly prompted?
The Jesuits are well known for their radicalism as well as their pragmatism. While more often than not muzzled by Rome over the centuries they contributed mightily to its new world congregation and to its wealth. Every Spanish galleon of the Conquest carried with her a priest, most often of the Society of Jesus. They were resilient but also tough. They were known as God's Marines but they were also Rome's mercenaries. They were complicit and active participants in the destruction of native peoples and their cultures and the plunder of their riches. Perhaps this one will plunder Rome and give it all back, but I somehow doubt it.
Words are cheap.
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Pope's Powerful Christmas Message
by skeeter1 inpope francis has denounced the "brutal persecution" of religious and ethnic minorities, in his traditional christmas day address.. in his second "urbi et orbi" - to the city and the world - christmas message, the pontiff highlighted the plight of victims of conflict in syria and iraq.. "too many people are being held hostage or massacred" in nigeria, he added.
pope francis also urged dialogue between israelis and palestinians and condemned taliban attacks in pakistan.. tens of thousands of people turned out on st peter's square to hear the argentine pope deliver his annual message.. he said christians in iraq and syria had endured conflict for too long, and "together with those belonging to other ethnic and religious groups, are suffering a brutal persecution".. "may christmas bring them hope, as indeed also to the many displaced persons, exiles and refugees, children, adults and elderly, from this region and from the whole world," the pope said.. .
******and, what did the governing body talk about when they addressed the world of jehovah's witnesses earlier this month?
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Pope's Powerful Christmas Message
by skeeter1 inpope francis has denounced the "brutal persecution" of religious and ethnic minorities, in his traditional christmas day address.. in his second "urbi et orbi" - to the city and the world - christmas message, the pontiff highlighted the plight of victims of conflict in syria and iraq.. "too many people are being held hostage or massacred" in nigeria, he added.
pope francis also urged dialogue between israelis and palestinians and condemned taliban attacks in pakistan.. tens of thousands of people turned out on st peter's square to hear the argentine pope deliver his annual message.. he said christians in iraq and syria had endured conflict for too long, and "together with those belonging to other ethnic and religious groups, are suffering a brutal persecution".. "may christmas bring them hope, as indeed also to the many displaced persons, exiles and refugees, children, adults and elderly, from this region and from the whole world," the pope said.. .
******and, what did the governing body talk about when they addressed the world of jehovah's witnesses earlier this month?
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Nickolas
Francis is a populist who's words translate neither into action nor remedy. He speaks eloquently of tolerance toward those disenfranchised by Rome but changes none of its doctrines toward accommodation. He decries poverty yet is surrounded by the greatest opulence and wealth the world has ever seen. Is he not the supreme leader of the Holy Roman Catholic Church?
"Who you are speaks so loudly I can't hear what you're saying." - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Dr. Kevorkian endorses the WTS Child Sacrifice doctrine
by OrphanCrow inin 1966, he published an article, our unforgiveable trespass, in the journal clinical pediatrics, in support of jw parents denying their children blood transfusions and that article was used by the wts in their 1973 publication directed to the medical community - jehovah's witnesses alternatives to blood transfusions.. .
about who dr. kevorkian was at the time he wrote this article:.
http://www.biography.com/people/jack-kevorkian-9364141#early-career.
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Nickolas
The life of the child becomes less important than the integrity of religious principles to which the parents adhere and according to which they wish to raise him.
What a fruitcake. As are all the parents who let their kids die.
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YOU 'THINK' YOU ARE FREE when you leave the Org. . . but it can be an ILLUSION
by Terry indid you know there is nothing more insane than being partly indoctrinated and partly free?.
the level of cognitive dissonance is ridiculous!.
i have told this story before, so i'll shorten it to cut to the chase.. in 1987, i was dating a professional psychotherapist with a view to marriage.
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Nickolas
For all of that information indoctrinated into JWS, is it any wonder that people who leave the JWS end up being atheists ?
Aye. When at last you recognise Watchtower Truth as fiction you are really only at a crossroads, though you might not fully appreciate it. You've only cut through a small portion of the religious bullshit that clutters your brain. The residual debilitating debris of faith remains. Terry's faux pas a wonderful example of it insidiously working its way into your reality. I broke free in 1976 while still a bible student but continued to pray to Jehovah for almost three decades. I know about cognitive dissonance. I experienced it for a long time. The realisation that Yahweh is a fiction set me free to create a different, more satisfying fiction in which to live.
We're all living our own personal fictions, what we tell ourselves to believe.
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Many Member Just Want to Believe
by OnTheWayOut inif you are/were an active jw, you are now here on jwn so, for whatever your reasons, you woke up to some degree- hopefully a great degree.
so what i am saying may not apply to you.. i know that if i had not already left, i would have stormed out on the day they studied "overlapping generation.
" i am quite confident i couldn't have stayed for such an obvious switcharoo just to make the end seem imminent and try to explain how wts was wrong, but not entirely wrong in the past.. but i had to wonder how that change (or others) didn't cause most jw's to walk out.
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Nickolas
Not to diminish what the Watchtower has done - the pictures of those kids on the cover of a particular Awake! magazine and the less recent slaughter in Malawi immediately come to mind - I have a tendency to weigh absolute numbers more than proportionals. The past atrocities of Rome paved the way to its present condition, and those atrocities have never been and never will be addressed. Genocide and murder by the millions while stolen gold built the Vatican is but mere, recent centuries ago. But the systematic rape of innocents has dwindled from a deluge to a trickle only in modern times, in spite of the broadbased coverup from on high, so remains a crime against humanity that awaits a just consequence proportional to the evil it has perpetrated. All those children, now adults, are still with us, and they number in the hundreds of thousands around the world. There is every reason to believe it is still happening where scrutiny is suppressed. Those of us living in the developed world are far less impacted by the enduring power of Rome than elsewhere. The Roman Church's proscription of contraception, notably the use of condoms, is causing as I write the deaths from AIDS of its adherents and their children in Africa. In Latin America where the power of the Church still holds sway women are being imprisoned for life for having had an abortion. Incest, rape, poverty, circumstance of no consquence or consideration. And still it takes from the poor so that its opulence can be sustained. The Roman Catholic church is the greater obscenity by any measure. Islam yet another. Slaughtering children in the name of God. It is to weep. It is all one big, putrid barrel of rotten apples of which the Watchtower is a small component. But, yes, we both want essentially the same thing. And this is the JWN, after all, not the HRCN, so the focus is not as broad. Perhaps why I now spend so little time in here.
