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  Why I Like the "Proclaimers" Book

  by t33ap80c in

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  while it is true that the "proclaimers" book is not always as open and honest about the society's history as it claims to be, it is open and honest enough to bring into question the society claim to being god's organization.

  it's a matter of (1) knowing what to look for, (2) where to find it and then, (3) to be able get the sense of what it means.. take for example the extremely important matter of the second coming of christ.... on the top of page 47 the book truthfully explains how president charles russell came to believe that jesus returned invisibly in 1874 to begin his second coming ("invisible presence").

  and then a careful reading of the footnote on page 133 shows that the date of jesus' return was not changed to 1914 until 1943.. it is likely that even if some witnesses notice that fact, they do not get the sense of what it means.

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  i think i stated in a wt-magazine, round about 1989 i guess, that gods day of wrath will occur within the 20th century.

  they deleted that statement on the cd-rom version. so they forged their own history. am i correct?
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  do single jw live ascetic?

  by varian in

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  it s often not imaginable for me, to think that single jws live a life of abstinence.

  i mean at the end of the day we are all humans with desires and wishes.

  most singles are not trained to be like monks from tibet or stuff.. so what s the secret behind it?

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  varian

  thanks for all your comments.
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  do single jw live ascetic?

  by varian in

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  it s often not imaginable for me, to think that single jws live a life of abstinence.

  i mean at the end of the day we are all humans with desires and wishes.

  most singles are not trained to be like monks from tibet or stuff.. so what s the secret behind it?

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  varian

  it´s often not imaginable for me, to think that single jws live a life of abstinence. i mean at the end of the day we are all humans with desires and wishes. most singles are not trained to be like monks from tibet or stuff.

  so what´s the secret behind it? prayer maybe?
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  The Übermensch

  by varian in

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  i used to ask myself, how come jws never or rarely sin.

  how do they manage to obstain from almost everything which is enjoyable all there entire life?.

  its imaginable to obstain from all the good stuff for a while, but your whole life????.

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  to prodigalson,

  i couldn´t really tell at that time wheter other brothers were leading doubles lives. i wasn´t a born in, or had family and relatives in the org. so it was not so easy to look behind the walls.

  later on, i heard about occational alcohol abuse, and that one brother was gay, but that´s about it.

  how high do you reckon the procentage of an average cong leading a double life? what do you consider a double life?

  yrs varian
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  The Übermensch

  by varian in

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  i used to ask myself, how come jws never or rarely sin.

  how do they manage to obstain from almost everything which is enjoyable all there entire life?.

  its imaginable to obstain from all the good stuff for a while, but your whole life????.

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  i used to ask myself, how come jws never or rarely sin. how do they manage to obstain from almost everything which is enjoyable all there entire life?

  its imaginable to obstain from all the good stuff for a while, but your whole life????

  i used to get the impression, when anything becomes kinds of fun, or there´s a nice feeling to it, then it has to do something with the devil!

  from all the cong members, i was probably the one with the most jc´s. but at the same time i wondered how the others manage to stay loyal. what advantage did they have? or am i just a week person? are they gifted in a very special way? are they übermenschen or herrenmenschen?????

  it really used to bug me.
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  praying for a jw partner

  by varian in

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  during my early 20ies while studying the bible, and many years after babtizm, i never dated even one sister!

  my cong was like in nomansland, and consisted of many older jws.

  so it was pretty depressing as a young brother without the slightest hope of finding an appropriate partner.. but one day, a very hot looking sister joined our club for a while, so all of a sudden, there were all types of dudes from other congs coming to our meetings.. i don t know how this conversation came about, but one jw gave me the advice, not to mention a persons name in prayer, because god will know who the right sister will be a suitable partner.

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  thank you all for your kind posts.

  during my time, we didn´t have internet. so i always had to wait for the circut assembly. poor looking back on it.

  have a wonderful 2011. varian
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  praying for a jw partner

  by varian in

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  during my early 20ies while studying the bible, and many years after babtizm, i never dated even one sister!

  my cong was like in nomansland, and consisted of many older jws.

  so it was pretty depressing as a young brother without the slightest hope of finding an appropriate partner.. but one day, a very hot looking sister joined our club for a while, so all of a sudden, there were all types of dudes from other congs coming to our meetings.. i don t know how this conversation came about, but one jw gave me the advice, not to mention a persons name in prayer, because god will know who the right sister will be a suitable partner.

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  hi pirata,

  he didn´t know my thoughts at that time. but it sounded like a biblical advice. but nowhere does it say to pray for someone, or mention a name during prayer.

  so, if you´re seeing someone, don´t pray to god during that time, because god knows far way in advance who is really the right partner.

  can´t i decide for myself who i fancy and who i don´t?
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  praying for a jw partner

  by varian in

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  during my early 20ies while studying the bible, and many years after babtizm, i never dated even one sister!

  my cong was like in nomansland, and consisted of many older jws.

  so it was pretty depressing as a young brother without the slightest hope of finding an appropriate partner.. but one day, a very hot looking sister joined our club for a while, so all of a sudden, there were all types of dudes from other congs coming to our meetings.. i don t know how this conversation came about, but one jw gave me the advice, not to mention a persons name in prayer, because god will know who the right sister will be a suitable partner.

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  varian

  during my early 20ies while studying the bible, and many years after babtizm, i never dated even one sister! not one!

  my cong was like in nomansland, and consisted of many older jws. so it was pretty depressing as a young brother without the slightest hope of finding an appropriate partner.

  but one day, a very hot looking sister joined our club for a while, so all of a sudden, there were all types of dudes from other congs coming to our meetings.

  i don´t know how this conversation came about, but one jw gave me the advice, not to mention a persons name in prayer, because god will know who the right sister will be a suitable partner. hahaha!

  so in other words: if you fancy someone, and you seem to get along together: for goodness sake, never have her on your mind during prayer! let god decide what is good for you!

  it was the loniest years of my whole life. it was like locking myself in a cellar on purpose. very depressing!

  where you told a similar thing about praying for mr/mrs right? its not biblical, is it?
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  sorry

  by varian in

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  it s me again....and yes, i m still alive.. first of all: i am really sorry for causing some trouble lately.

  i had the intention of taking an overdose the other day.

  to be perfectly honest, i was drunk out of my mind when i wrote my last post, and someone i knew gave me all kind of pills to take.

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  it´s me again....and yes, i´m still alive.

  first of all: i am really sorry for causing some trouble lately. i had the intention of taking an overdose the other day. to be perfectly honest, i was drunk out of my mind when i wrote my last post, and someone i knew gave me all kind of pills to take. well anyway, i survived just about and woke up 2 days later with my face in my own vomit. so it was a pretty mess.

  i was frustratet and depressed i suppose, but i don´t want to do that again. it wasn´t to pay attention to myself, i just wanted someone to get the things off my chest. so once again, i am very sorry.

  and to outlaw, my friend: you can´t drink beer when you´re dead. how right you are....

  thanks for all the kind posts and advices. god bless you all. varian
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  this is it. i had enough

  by varian in

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  i feel like not being part of anything since god knows when.

  i ve tryed, but to make a long story short: i don t fit in to anything.. i can t get out of these bleeding depressions.

  so i ll go out tonight for the last time in my life and take an overdose at the end.. its been nice meeting you all.

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  varian

  i feel like not being part of anything since god knows when. i´ve tryed, but to make a long story short: i don´t fit in to anything.

  i can´t get out of these bleeding depressions. so i´ll go out tonight for the last time in my life and take an overdose at the end.

  its been nice meeting you all. take care....

  varian