Posts by Glander

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WHy Have You Turned YOur Back On The Messiah

by cassuk11 in

ok so you got out of the watchtower society after discerning it was false.

what is amazing is how many have turned their back on the king or was it they had no faith in the first place and the spiritual food they received did not help them stand upon a rock.

jesus the christ your saviour is a living breathing being with emotions.

Dinosaur Soft Tissue, Blood, & DNA Catalog of Peer Reviewed Papers

by Perry in

the world's most comprehensive catalog of peer-reviewed journal papers documenting the existence of dinosaur soft tissue, blood cells and dna is here.

can't we all just agree to finally give a 150 year old theory a nice funeral?

there is no way this stuff lasts hundreds of millions of years!.

Does Anyone Remember the "Around The World Assemblies"?

by titch in

so, being that it is 2013, i recall that it was 50 years ago, that the "around the world assemblies" were held.

for those of us who lived in southern california, the first week of september was when we had the assembly, and it was held at the rose bowl in pasadena.

yep, the rose bowl, with no seats, per se, but just those hard benches as seats.

Glander

The Rose Bowl was like a giant solar oven

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Are your Ready for Sunday's WT...1914...

by Legacy in

jw
friends

to all who are still active...& those who are not...... is everyone ready for wt for sunday....1914....is everyone ready to see the friends faces, that will pretend all is well.

but their minds will be racing.

i started the article...talk about confusing...but maybe on purpose only a few in the hall will be able to break it down.

Glander

I liked the quote in COC when Knorr said,(paraphrasing), "Gee, I hope we're right about 1914, we bet the farm on it".

Good thing he was long dead by 1995.

He would have been real pissed at ol' Fred.

Imagine a conversation about this if they were alive in the early 90's.

The scene opens in Knorrs office. He has summoned Fred Franz, who is setting in front of his desk.

NHK: What the fuck, Fred? We're running out of time here! People BORN in 1914 are almost 80 years old! Let alone those that were 12. They're over 90, fer Chrissake! We've already stretched this thing to the breaking point. Now what?

FF: Yes, Yes. I know Nathan. But, I've got an idea. You know the original Greek word for "generation" is..

NHK: Don't start that original Greek shit with me, you dumbass!...we're in a bind here and I need some answers!

FF: Well, what I'm saying is, we could start running some articles in the 'tower about being faithful to the GB and, oh yeah!, some district convention talks and...well... kind of soften the fuckers up for a couple of years and then, wham! We tell them they have read too much into what was said before and that here's the straight dope. Then we put THEM on the defensive. Remind them about "no one knows the day and hour"... and "thief in the night" and all that good shit...

NHK: Are you serious? They'd run us out of town on a rail!

FF: Now wait a minute, Nate. We've been through this before. You can't kill these bastards with a stick! They'll buy whatever we tell them. The ones that don't, well, they either eat it and smile or we boot 'em! It'll be fine I tell ya'

NHK: Well, we don't have much choice do we, mister "1975"?

FF: Nate, come on, you said you wouldn't bring that up again.

NHK: Ok, you little fruit. Put something together and and we'll run it by the jerk jolly boys and see where it goes.

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Watchtower 6/15/2009 p.20 The Faithful Steward and It's Governing Body

by mindnumbed in

.... never mind, no longer applies, see july 15, 2013 watchtower.

Glander

That 2009 WT is now apostate literature.

Would you buy milk that had an expiration date of... today?

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A book I'm reading

by ldrnomo in

"the story of my people" edoardo nesi:

our inner thoughts are our greatest inner riches and they mean little, almost nothing, unless they're expressed, and everything we fail to say or write or live is lost----mere dust.

so, how much have you lost?

Glander

they mean little, almost nothing, unless they're expressed, and everything we fail to say or write or live is lost----mere dust. So, how much have you lost?

I have been doing my best for over 30 years in all the 3 ways you mention above.

I must say that this forum that I was introduced to about 7 years ago has been a great way to express my experiences in, I hope, a way to help others get out.

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Are your Ready for Sunday's WT...1914...

by Legacy in

jw
friends

to all who are still active...& those who are not...... is everyone ready for wt for sunday....1914....is everyone ready to see the friends faces, that will pretend all is well.

but their minds will be racing.

i started the article...talk about confusing...but maybe on purpose only a few in the hall will be able to break it down.

Glander

I would like to see a PDF of this study.

I agree with Julia. It will have an effect eventually. It all adds up. Drip, drip, drip. The Watchtwer racket is wearing thin. They are now harvesting 100 years worth of real estate investment. The income base is shrinking.

All they have left to hold their followers is to grab them like hostages and hold the shunning knife to their throat. THE INTERNET! APOSTATES! ETC.

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Does Anyone Remember the "Around The World Assemblies"?

by titch in

so, being that it is 2013, i recall that it was 50 years ago, that the "around the world assemblies" were held.

for those of us who lived in southern california, the first week of september was when we had the assembly, and it was held at the rose bowl in pasadena.

yep, the rose bowl, with no seats, per se, but just those hard benches as seats.

Glander

"A nice bit 'o crumpet, that"

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Does Anyone Remember the "Around The World Assemblies"?

by titch in

so, being that it is 2013, i recall that it was 50 years ago, that the "around the world assemblies" were held.

for those of us who lived in southern california, the first week of september was when we had the assembly, and it was held at the rose bowl in pasadena.

yep, the rose bowl, with no seats, per se, but just those hard benches as seats.

Glander

I think that was also the release of the huge, red, doorstop book, "Babylon the Great Has fallen, God's Kingdom Rules". Made the whole ordeal worthwhile.

Yes, they created a sense of urgency. 50 years ago this summer.

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Does Anyone Remember the "Around The World Assemblies"?

by titch in

so, being that it is 2013, i recall that it was 50 years ago, that the "around the world assemblies" were held.

for those of us who lived in southern california, the first week of september was when we had the assembly, and it was held at the rose bowl in pasadena.

yep, the rose bowl, with no seats, per se, but just those hard benches as seats.

Glander

Rose Bowl '63. I was 17 and we drove into Pasadena every day from the San Fernando valley, about 20 miles. Not only is the Rose Bowl a bowl but it is situated in a geological bowl. It is an oblong concrete dish with steps (seating) on the sides. There are tunnels every so far to get out of the bowl to the unshaded concourses. It was designed for 3 hour college football games in the fall and winter. It was never intended to accomodate 110,000 men women and children for eight straight 6 hour days of speeches in 90 to 100f degree temps in the summer.

People were dropping like flies. There was a constant stream of 2 man teams of young brothers running here and there with old army stretchers held above the throngs to a location where some poor soul had collapsed. One day I was walking through an exit tunnel when a sister in front of me simply fell like tree right in front of me. It was a sickening sound. Several others went to her aid and got the word through walkie talkie to send out a stretcher. They had set up a make shift infirmary tent with evap coolers and cots. Outside ambulance service was always coming and going. Never heard, but I'll wager that some frail folks didn't survice.

Yes. then came the marathon closing prayer from Knorr. Not one word about the suffering of the attendees.

The LA papers had headlines for a few days comparing the Rose Bowl to the Billy Graham revival by attendance numbers.