stoped goin over a year ago now, been bugged ever since,iv just sent em away with im ill to tierd goin out what ever excuse i could think of to get em off my back,.
im a big wimp so is my husband, every time the elder turns up we go yer yer come next week what ever and wel sort sumat out.
which we dont mean its our brain washed mind talking and its very weak,.
prob is i cant bring myself to stand at the door and say to the elders face naf off,
i want to say this religion is full of it and im not interested iv seen the light and im out, but cant im pathetic,
so i want to put it in writing stick it to my door with his name on it and hope he walks away but u know what i bet any money he flipin still knocks and bugs us.
stoped goin over a year ago now, been bugged ever since,iv just sent em away with im ill to tierd goin out what ever excuse i could think of to get em off my back,.
im a big wimp so is my husband, every time the elder turns up we go yer yer come next week what ever and wel sort sumat out.
which we dont mean its our brain washed mind talking and its very weak,.
stoped goin over a year ago now, been bugged ever since,iv just sent em away with im ill to tierd goin out what ever excuse i could think of to get em off my back,
im a big wimp so is my husband, every time the elder turns up we go yer yer come next week what ever and wel sort sumat out. which we dont mean its our brain washed mind talking and its very weak,
iv had enough of it now and need to say somthing that keeps em away and i dont want to say somat horrid to em,infact im scared of em and i go all shakey at door and weak in the mind,i need to leave a letter or sumat on door,
what should i put in it all ideas welcome im sure il get a sensible one at some point,
i dont want em goin and saying im an apostate to the cong or i dont want to be around em anymore cos im a demon worshiper or sumat u know what its like
cos the real reason i dont go is cos its lie after lie and also the main one is i had blood transfusion a few years back never told em till a few months ago and i totaly disagree with it all
id have died and left my kids if i dint have it and id had flipin twins,aswel as a house full more of em,
now i know in there eyes im an apostate but in mine im not i still beleve in god and follow jesus path i think,
but the cong will never know that id almost died and needed 7 pints of blood, theyd just think horrid things,
also i told the elders id had blood and all that and they said its all ok lets forget it and start again like its ok so if its ok for me to do it and not get reproved how come they telling everyone else not to cos its all wrong and god said so!
anyways i thought that if i told em theyd leave me alone but it made em worse and now they call on me more to go back saying every one misses me,
which is a load of bull ....!cos no one was even my freind there i was ignored most of the time and only got spoken to to ask if id put my report in
or the weathers nice,
glad u made it here. then theyd walk off,
id been going on and off for like 20 years but dint get baptised till like 6 years ago.
anyways i used to be half ok and theyd talk to me and somtimes a sis would ask me out for a shoping spree or sumat but then..............
i met my husband on that jwconect site and it all changed now i was a demon lover and no one talked to me any more not realy anyways i could tell the tone changed just cos id met him on internet,
so what in my eyes he was still a wit and its up to me anyways ,
anyways he came here uk from usa, and u know what no one spoke to him, and ever since hes been he no ones botherd non ones tryed to be freinds with him like hes a real bad man or somet and hes teh kindest man iv ever met,
they dont even know him and never even tryed to get to know him,
so i had enough of it all
and thats just the start of it i could go on and on with much more dirt from em but i wont.
so i desided no freinds in and got no freinds out so what do i have,
it wont be much diff if i get dissfelld as no ones spoken to me anyways so its not like its gona be hard on me,
infact since i stoped going not one sincer person from my cong not one single flipin person exept the elder who has to, has phoned or come round or anything to see how i am, why i havnt gone nothing, for all they new i could have flipin died been in hos what ever no ones even tryed to contact me not even befor i told the elder id had a blood trans so weres the love in my hall..
if there is love im not geting any,
infact there all to busy licking each others arses and sucking up,ow and maybe its cos i dont have a villa in spain or a flashy car, i duno i always felt i wasnt good enough not in any clicks not in anything not even invited to get togethers nothing kids never wanted to talk to my kids like they were lepers or sumat i never new why,
o yer cos my husbands a demon from a web site i forgot,
and i dont have ££££££££$$$$$$$$$$in bank,
maybe im wrong but all i got from sis when i was around em was iv got this im doing that im geting this we been there we going there,
what ever knowing absolutly that i couldnt be same as them as i wasnt well off and my sons doing this on plat form my sons whos like 2 or sumat is doing a bible reading even thoe he dont even no what hes saying, on and on and on about how there so good and theres kids doing so well, well my sons got a degree in medical science but did any of em care no.... my sons so much flipin better cos he got out and did somat with him self,
now i dont want to rant any more i just want some help with the geting rid of elders and leaving me alone letter.... any one with ideas pleas post
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many today, more notebly, the religious leaders of this world, and their followers, feel that they can do a mere cursory, superficial reading of the bible, and from that, set forth their hard and fast interpretations of the holy writings.
but is it really all that easy, to understand the holy scriptures, to get 'the breadth, length, heigth, and depth,' of everything written; in order to be 'rooted and established on the foundation, to 'grasp mentally,' with all the holy ones?
i read i understud and im on that path but now iv got migraine and my eyes hurt, i almost fell asleep afew times but needed to finish the brain mushing
this is one of the top thought stopping phrases here.. it invalidates any argument presented against the organization.
it basically says this:.
"it doesn't matter who did what in the org, it doesn't matter how bad things get, we are the only ones doing what jesus did, therefore all errors and corruption are disregarded as we await the end.".
i was watching a clip otherday on some other religion preaching the good news
and they beleive just about the same as the jws do and they give books and mags out freely called the good news,
and i thought they were so remarcably like the jws, so next time my elder comes round bugging me to come back im gona say but iv found a new branwashing group to follow
and u both beleive the same so now im confused as to which ones right now,
"not realy id never be brain washed ever again, but they are very similer, the united church of god and the jws i thought,
i dint look into em much but from the bits i did see of em they doing a dam good job of preaching the good news....... similer not the exact same but to the one brain wave theyd be totaly brain washed by em,
iv since grown a few more brain waves and now iv seen the light and im now im not blinded by the truth i can see.
it's ok.... to post here on the internet, on jwn, and other jw related forums.. first of all, as we all know, the governing body doesn't provide a forum for jw's to "associate" with their brothers and sisters.
i'm just guessing, and i could be wrong, that its harder to control the flock when they have free access to information and each other.
damn electricity and the technology it brings..... anyway, i realize that for anyone leaving, or for practicing jw's, to post is a nervous thing.
when do they have time to enjoy anything and anyways what is there to enjoy if u cant watch tv realy sports etc cant go bars bla bla bla cant ow im not going to go on u know what i mean
we went to target this weekend to look at halloween costumes for the kiddos (and maybe me - i'm still a kid at heart).
my daughter and i were walking down a main aisle when an ex-friend - the very one who testified that i refused to discuss my doubts - came out of a side aisle and almost turned our direction.
we made eye contact and i gave him a nod as we continued to walk toward him.... but he stopped like he'd run into a brick wall, then turned and started walking with his back to us so that we didn't cross paths.. my daughter pipes up and says, "hey, daddy, isn't that [edit]??
iv asked my kids if the wana do halowen and they told me no! so as for me trying to give em a good time in this new way of life of mine they feel uncomfortable with it as iv brain washed em for so long in to how bad it is, what kind of mother am i,
one min they cant do it then say they can por things are so confussed now.
we went to target this weekend to look at halloween costumes for the kiddos (and maybe me - i'm still a kid at heart).
my daughter and i were walking down a main aisle when an ex-friend - the very one who testified that i refused to discuss my doubts - came out of a side aisle and almost turned our direction.
we made eye contact and i gave him a nod as we continued to walk toward him.... but he stopped like he'd run into a brick wall, then turned and started walking with his back to us so that we didn't cross paths.. my daughter pipes up and says, "hey, daddy, isn't that [edit]??
prob is im strting to feel sorry for him he keeps coming and i keep him at the door,
giving him like the crap of going out ill or sumat so he cant come in
then hel say il come back soon or sumat and like an idiot i say ok then hel say give me a time and date then im even more flushed and pathetic and just say anything so he goes but hes gona come back if i keep doing this.
teh thing is out of all the flipin drones at my hall him and his wife are the only ones that have ever been nice to me and help sometimes
so i feel bad for him,
im to nice
and stupid
i might leave a note saying somat just havnt decided what to put in it yet
plus even thoe i stoped going and all im still patheticaly brain wshed in some stuff and feel like im a demon worshiper for doing what im doing
and im one of the few bible beleivers left in the world who still thinks its real true and wants to follow it.
we went to target this weekend to look at halloween costumes for the kiddos (and maybe me - i'm still a kid at heart).
my daughter and i were walking down a main aisle when an ex-friend - the very one who testified that i refused to discuss my doubts - came out of a side aisle and almost turned our direction.
we made eye contact and i gave him a nod as we continued to walk toward him.... but he stopped like he'd run into a brick wall, then turned and started walking with his back to us so that we didn't cross paths.. my daughter pipes up and says, "hey, daddy, isn't that [edit]??
iv felt like im been shuned since i met my husband cos i met him on that jw conect sight some years back
from that point i had no freinds every one just seemed to stop talking to me
i felt like id married the devil himself, my dh is my soul mate and nicest man i ever met now if they couldnt see him for who he is just cos we met on a site then i dint want to be around em any more,
my dh came alway from america to be wi me and no one even tryed to befreind him,im in uk by the way
iv not gone ina wile now and no ones rang me to see why i havnt been iv seen wits in shops and they kinda run off hoping i dint see em and when i end up in front of em i say hello cos i feel akward not saying it, but iv only bumpted in to a few of the real old ones anyways,
if they found out why i dint wana go anymore which the elders know why then theyd deff prob shun me, as i had a blood transfusion to save my life when i gave birth to my babes and would do it again to.so il be dissed cos i wana be a good mother and lookafter my kids and be here for em but if i died id be forgoton then my kids would have no mom and theyd be happy down the hall for that instead.
thats not the only reason i dont go thoe theres many more,
at the mo im at the being pesterd moment every other week a perticular elder comes to my door trying to get me back even thioe iv told him i would have blood again and i wanted it donty care what they think u know ,he says im forgiven get that and that everything is forgoten so start new and come back refreshed that everythings ok,
im so mad
how can they say that i mean i was hoping theyd leave me alone now that they new as i never told em for a few years that id done it, i thought if i tell em id deff get dissfelowshiped and theyd leave me alone
but no its oposite now,
please can some one help me get rid of em in a nice way,
cos when he comes again which is in 2 weeks as my pathetic weak husband like me agreed to em coming round we cant say get lost we to darn nice to,
should i leave a note on door saying somat as i just cant face em.help.
since i've been out of the jw religion, i've had no desire to attend any churches.
although i've always liked the way many churches look with the (stained glass, etc).
growing up our kh was so ugly and boring to look at.
hi im still a beleiver in god but stoped going khall about a year ago
,iv looked in to other religions in past befor becoming a witt, but they were worse than the witts,i also looked at somthing otherday on line and they are called the united church of god, well when i saw them i found them interesting
but not to like join only cos they reminded me so much of the witts its astonishingly so alike,
infact next time an elder knocks on my door saying we want u back im gona say iv found a new brain washer to follow but i duno whos right as u both same,lol (not realy im to scared) cos iv got one who keeps coming round trying to get me back, il tell my story soon so u all know why i left.
it's ok.... to post here on the internet, on jwn, and other jw related forums.. first of all, as we all know, the governing body doesn't provide a forum for jw's to "associate" with their brothers and sisters.
i'm just guessing, and i could be wrong, that its harder to control the flock when they have free access to information and each other.
damn electricity and the technology it brings..... anyway, i realize that for anyone leaving, or for practicing jw's, to post is a nervous thing.
hi am new tol this forum, and i stoped going khall a year ago
but still got probs in life trying to go forward,i left cos of isuse with blood and many more,
i still beleive in god but not the jws,the main prob with me is geting the brain washing out of my head,
like xmas is coming up and its making me dead uncomfortable,cos iv got like a walton family full of kids,i dont have other fam members in "truth" only my ex mom inlaw so thats easy for me and as freinds are they were never my freinds so iv lost nothing.
