so its my first and im feeling uncomfortable, i want to go ahead and do it,.
all the trimmings everything but i havnt done it in 20 years and it still feels weird,.
anyone else ever had this prob when they first left jws,.
so its my first and im feeling uncomfortable, i want to go ahead and do it,
all the trimmings everything but i havnt done it in 20 years and it still feels weird,
anyone else ever had this prob when they first left jws,
im a fader and im writing a letter in a bit to and sending it to elders telling them im not coming back and to leave me alone,
so iv not gone in like a year now,
how did u lot feel when u first did christmas?
from me, to you all....... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn8ckwdosje.
Made me cry, too. I'm making my banner right now.
in the elder book on chapter5:16 it says about religiose hols and geting a judisial thingy if u do em but it also says like only religiose hols and not for non e religios hols so does that mean u can do thanksgiving.
and in england bonfire night and what ever else is out there thats not religiose,.
and they cant do anything cos its jws concients and they can if they want?
in the elder book on chapter5:16 it says about religiose hols and geting a judisial thingy if u do em but it also says like only religiose hols and not for non e religios hols so does that mean u can do thanksgiving
and in england bonfire night and what ever else is out there thats not religiose,
and they cant do anything cos its jws concients and they can if they want? its just that iv been depriving my kids all these years
and could have done some hols and only didnt cos my motherinlaw and study conductor and othes at my hall who are brain washed dont flipin no anything and told me not to so me being stupidly brain washed thought ok.
are some of you scared that armageddon may be coming anytime?
lol.
just the thought and the picture in your head that anybody can get killed....>.<.
i dont beleive the wt bull but i do beleive the bible and it still says there gona be an end and a paradise regardless of what anyone else might say,so for me im looking forward to it cos i know well i hope anyways il be there, watching all the witts get turned away cos jesus dosnt know em.
anyway its a nice dream playing with the nice lions and all and id like it to come true,
my father will not leave me alone.
i need your suggestions on what to do.. my father is elderly and his health isn't good.
still, he pioneers.
i havnt had ur experiences
althoe geting same kind of thing im being harrased by an elder that wont leave me alone,
thinks il come back to
i think with parents its diff they are just scared that they are going to lose u when paradise comes
i used to be same wi my daughter when she stoped going a few years back,
it wont matter what u tell him
hes so full of it he cant see ur side of the point
i couldnt wi my daughter
but i can now and she didnt change my mind i did
so i think all u can do is keep sending him posts on the wrongs of the watchtower and jws and hopefully hel start to read em and see and it might niggle at him,hes sending u so u send him,
this is one of the top thought stopping phrases here.. it invalidates any argument presented against the organization.
it basically says this:.
"it doesn't matter who did what in the org, it doesn't matter how bad things get, we are the only ones doing what jesus did, therefore all errors and corruption are disregarded as we await the end.".
hebrews 11:36 Some faced jeers and flogging, while still others were chained and put in prison. 37 They were stoned [f] ; they were sawed in two; they were put to death by the sword. They went about in sheepskins and goatskins, destitute, persecuted and mistreated— 38 the world was not worthy of them. They wandered in deserts and mountains, and in caves and holes in the ground
shouldnt go round telling bare face lies then should they,
also people from all relgions have had things like that done to em so they not only once the jwwitleses
its the ones doing the will of god who gets saved not the ones who go round telling people ther interpretaions of it, god sees the hearts and if they minds arnt right they dooooooooomed,or is it the other way round
for me, i would go back to the day when charles taze russell snuffed it.
i'd wait for judge rutherford to turn up at the ibsa headquarters, then run him over with a steamroller, in true buster keaton styleee!.
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id go to the future who cares about the past,then go and live on mars
i keep seeing references to them and couldn't help but wonder.. how many elders does a kingdom hall have?
what is the extent of their powers and authority?
can they speak to someone who's been dfed?
ur all soooooo funny anyways the avarage window cleaner feels real good about himself if hes got the elder book in his poket, hes untouchable,
according to this, jesus is not just the mediator of the 144,000 -- he's the mediator of mankind!!
and apparently "dear jesus" prayers are okay!
the watch tower says i can say, "dear jesus, you are my mediator as you are for all mankind..." "the bible clearly says that jesus christ is mankind's redeemer, so he is mankind's mediator.
it says who ever calls on jesus name will be heard not just the 144000,and only jesus is the mediator between us and god and no one else, get it there (who ever.. anyone... any person at all who calls on him. (not exept for the scraps that are left hopeing, they not good enough so they cant)
also the flipin elders and who ever else should stop looking for the faults in there followers and start looking at the faults its been teaching em all and look at the giant flaming tree in there eyes and not the splinter in others eyes
okay, based on my reading, you're clearly better off being one of the 144,000. first, you get to reside in heaven, while everyone else is consigned to living on earth.
second, a spirit (in wts eschatology) is much better than being a flesh and bone human.
they can fly, read in a darkened room and they get to be with god for eternity.. but what of everyone else?
it says in matt about the wife whos all husbands died and which one gets her and he said none cos theyl be like the angels in heaven
it dosnt say anywere that they gona neither be male or female, just says they wont be geting married in new system,
it dosnt say which reserection them people he was talking about was going to be in neither,
also in rev 22 :15outside of the gates r the dogs those practicing spiritism,fornicators(,idolaters )and( everyone carrying on a lie!!!!!)
(jws idolise the gb and the gb lie) i dont read the coments of the watchtower i read the bible form the book its self and iterpret it how i think not how u think, and i say it means the ones going heaven and also the ones who come back on earth yes but when the second death has been done away with then people wont marry and have flipin kids
