has anyone ever calculated how many ex-jws there are in the world today?
i know the 'retention rate' is pretty low.
i just wondered if anybody has done the math and worked it out, figuring in maybe an allowance for deaths, and also, perhaps a figure for people who have studied with the witnesses, become unbaptised publishers, then walked away.
Has anyone ever calculated how many Ex-JWs there are in the world today? I know the 'retention rate' is pretty low. I just wondered if anybody has done the math and worked it out, figuring in maybe an allowance for deaths, and also, perhaps a figure for people who have studied with the witnesses, become unbaptised publishers, then walked away. I'm curious just what a mean percentage of the population is familiar with the cult and its beliefs and practices.
Thanks in anticipation
i have just been informed that the watchtower society lovingly stated that all black people would become, over time, white.
this would happen when the earth is to become a paradise.. please tell me that what i have heard are the mutterings of a fool and can't possibly be true!.
my wife is of mixed-race origin and i quite like her the way she is.
I also vaguely remember a Consolation/Watchtower with somesuch bollocks about a black person being 'happy in their work' for the white man. I don't recall the article exactly, but it was bloody condescending and outright racist. Any lurkers out there who aren't caucasian- Do you REALLY believe that Jehovah is backing and INSPIRING the WT$? The magazines have been written by uneducated, bigoted, narrow-minded idiots for years. They are not inspired. Jehovah would do better getting a room full of monkeys at typewriters (I think I've watched too many episodes of the Simpsons) to make more sense.
Arseholes.
the watchtower and awake have given some warnings in the past concerning materials available via the internet.
apostate and porn sites, violent games, useless and frivolous entertainment, and so on.
for now, they are contended with just giving friendly warnings.
I think The WT$ is gonna buy out Ask Jeeves, and call it Ask Jehovah. They seriously can't continue to just counsel the R&F about the dangers of the internet. Unlike TV, which erodes a christian's morals, the internet offers a quick, easy low-down on the Watchtower and the truth about the truth. This is WAY more dangerous than TV or anything else that's come out in the past 50 years. people can easily access potentially damaging information in seconds. The WT$ will have to address this situation, as young kids can just look stuff up on their phones, in their free time, any time they like! At least with TV, if you watch with the rest of the family, somebody can be captain of the remote and say, 'This isn't very theocratic', and change the channel. With the web, and cellphones, they are gonna lose the battle. It can be accessed furtively, privately.
God bless the inventor of the internet.
i don't know what it is ...... but it's becoming disconcerting.
he's going to just have to sit outside the door and wait.
i know it will be dissappointing to him , as he purrs like crazy while gathering in the experience.
Lady Lee, weird how your cat reacted to your operation. My dogs are the same with me... I had an injury playing soccer and lost the sensation on the skin surface on my right thigh 9 years ago. (You could stick a lit match in it, and I wouldn't feel it). Since then, my dogs, (who sleep in the bed with me) always lick my poorly thigh. It's strange, I know they are licking it, but I can't feel it on the skin surface.
Chickpea. Rats in your grundies? Seriously? Now I don't feel so weird with a dawg in me knickers. Thanks!
i don't know what it is ...... but it's becoming disconcerting.
he's going to just have to sit outside the door and wait.
i know it will be dissappointing to him , as he purrs like crazy while gathering in the experience.
I had a miniature breed dog that used to climb in my boxers while I took a dump. He'd lay back in them like a hammock and gaze up at me.
He's since gone to doggy heaven, and my boxers aren't quite so baggy-fitting.
Before anybody tries to make a funny......NO, he wasn't a shi-tzu
been thinking about this and curious about what makes us all come to the decisions we came to in our fade/exiting the jw organization.. i think for myself having been born-in & raised a jw my doubts about the generation doctrine had simmered for years within me quietly and by the time i finally left in 2003 i had reached my breaking point.
also seeing unjust treatment of rank & file witness ( myself included ) just propelled me into my decision even quicker.
so - one day after meeting with 3 elders in a back room before a meeting and seeing their judgmental aggression towards me - i just told myself " enough is enough ".
One day in 2003 I just started thinking about the existence of god, and all the discrepancies in the bible. Within a month I was on autopliot, my mind was detatched, and a little voice had appeared in my head which just kept nagging at me during the meetings. Everything everybody said at the meetings sounded like a crock. I began to see people for what they really were, and asked myself that had I met them in my normal daily life, would I have chosen them as friends. I decided that possibly 10% of the witnesses at my KH were maybe okay, the rest were just arseholes. Then one day I just drove away from the meeting after not stopping to 'associate', and realised that that would be my last ever meeting. I reasoned that what would be the point of continuing the charade further. The anger and revulsion inside of me stopped me from wanting to go to please anybody. I knew that if I went to one more meeting, then somebody was liable to get punched.
I have since done the play-acting that I feel depressed, disillusioned with the 'Truth', etc. This is just to placate my family. I still get the visits after all these years, but choose to play cat and mouse with them. If they're occupied with me, it wastes thier time, and saves somebody else an unwanted visit.
I don't think I could do the gradual fade thing. It's like trying to wean yourself off poison. If it's bad for you, stop doing it.
...tatooed arms (e.g.
mum & dad), diamond socks, baked beans, every second word beginns with an f., red faced on teneriffa, binge drinking....anything else?
(please take this with humor my friends).
It's possible to spot a Brit a mile away.... especially if you go to Spain or Tenerife, Gran Canaria etc. All the trailer trash go on holiday there. Go anywhere else in the world, and it's not as easy.
The uniform is~
Shaved head (men) greasy ponytail (women)
bright red skin
Football shirt (Chelsea or Man United)
Large celtic band tattoos on arms or legs.
Marlboro rested on bottom lip.
i cannot speak for other countries, but it has become evident of late that more and more talks are being done by presiding overseers at kh's (especially in the west midlands) and they are making it quite clear that they are expecting 3 from every publisher (per day) who visit the dudley assembly hall, west midlands to contribute towards the upkeep of it.. the quote from the po's who have done this talk have said that "it is expected that each publisher will put 3 into the box on each day".. what do you think of that then?
as the world hits an economic breakdown the jw's seem to maximising their income from struggling families.. dudley assembly hall holds about 600-700 people.
i'm sure people are capable of doing the maths.. so much for voluntary contributions !!
Crikey! How on earth is Hellaby doing a £1 million refit!?! They knocking it down and rebuilding it? It's only been up less than 20 years...?
Dudley Ass hall is a dump. I don't know how they can squeeze you for 3 quid for an old cinema with a new carpet and no projector. They aren't even showing the new Harry Potter flick. I'd rather pay a few more quid and see some flea-bitten monkeys across the road than sit looking at the inside of my eyelids for 6 hours.
Donate some Monopoly money.
on facebook.
it turns out i was asking too many thought provoking questions, and a "sister" investigated.
7 months ago this would have devastated me, now it just makes me laugh!
Out at last, You said the B word! They'll kick you off for sure. They might suspect when they see the scary beard and non-theocratic face paint.
Lol. They are all such losers.
just an interesting blurb i ran across and thought some of you might find it interesting.. .
according to traditional jewish historiography, the great assembly (anshe knesset hagedolah) was an assembly of 120 rabbis that ruled in the period after the time of the prophets up to the time of the development of rabbinic judaism in 70 ce.
they bridge a period of about two centuries.
A redacted bible sounds a pretty good deal. It would be tempting to redact all of those books from start to finish and just leave the titles.
