the title of this thread is "birthdays rob the glory of God" Debator you are off topic for most of this discussion.....not are birthdays from a pagen origin.
You have robbed and hi jacked this thread.
humans are unique.
each one is unique in his/her own regard.
like your thumbprint, your life is unlike any life in existence.. .
the title of this thread is "birthdays rob the glory of God" Debator you are off topic for most of this discussion.....not are birthdays from a pagen origin.
You have robbed and hi jacked this thread.
humans are unique.
each one is unique in his/her own regard.
like your thumbprint, your life is unlike any life in existence.. .
designs ....lol
I love it a secret society with a hidden agenda they dont want people to know about....NO NOT THE WT!
Either way I have asked debator to answer me from his heart/head why he is here, The GB does not aprove of this site, yet he remains silent on matters of heart. He tries to send out the fear the phobia, and the control. Standard issue inside the WT box logic poors outta his mouth, every response is a scripted one....it is standard issue brainwashing at its finest. Speak freely debator tell us why you are here, surly you can not feel you have God's direction to be here? And if you do ...then you are NOT following the GB....which makes all your standard issue responses null and void.
Debator can you not make one comment, one word of questioning that comes first thru your heart and your brain, even the most devote JW's if really questioned can come up with something they feel the light will be brighter on in the futurer? UNPLUG and let the healing take place that can only happen amoung freethinkers. You are not doing Gods work here, spend this time in the door to door work. But I feel you are a freethinker otherwise you would not be here, or I'd agree with designs and feel you are just a spy f ing with us, and to that I will turn the other cheek. I will treat your words like I do the WTBS as a means to hurt, frighten, and contol me. Be glad you are on a site with us, because we would not be premitted here:
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nemesis (nm-ss).
n.pl.nemeses(-sz)1. a source of harm or ruin.2.
retributive justice in its execution or outcome.3.
Everyone has their own ahhah moment, and what is ones, doesnt even effect the other. For me I was troubled by the illustration from the watchtower - that of a candy from the gutter, even though washed of the dirt - would still not be apietizing, any sane person would not eat it.
I knew the watchtower had flaws any human org can not claim otherwise, but as a JW I truly believed that these problems were made clean thru the fact that the organization was acting from an honest heart, and with good intent. This exampled clearly spoke to me how that this same washing off or cleaning up of falsehoods is NOT premitted....the ORG does not claim or admitt to any wrong doing. WE ARE HOLY WE ARE 100% RIGHT. Hmmmmm yet that is what "New" light is....a washing a cleansing. I do not find this apietizing!
humans are unique.
each one is unique in his/her own regard.
like your thumbprint, your life is unlike any life in existence.. .
Hahaha Debator you are sooo funny. It is amazing to me that you found the answer you wanted because you were told what the answer was and you went and found it!
I have never ever celebrated a Birthday Anniversary EVER. I may or may not agree with some or all of the WT teachings regarding this so called pagen holiday. You would not KNOW because you have yet to think reason and get to know by discusion what moves others hearts, and what could make someone tick. And that is my riddle for you why are you here?
Personaly I loved the Watchtowers comments about all of these pagen teachings ect...like being a candy gotten from the gutter, even if you washed it off.....would you still eat it? Their point here is to make me turn away from pagen holidays, however that comment was very very important to me and freeing my mind spiritualy, and opening the way to free thinking. The WTBTS is full of false ideas that have been thru a washing and made clean. (the pyramid is all I need to say) I am to eat this candy? The WTBTS has taken their teachings and washed and refined them according to current understandings, you and me are to swallow it. Things that are Pagen. So how can you deny anyone who has washed and refined a pagen holiday, and then feels that may partake....oh wait you cant only the GB can. and the GB says to get off of this site. So either debate from your own mind your own thoughts, or listen to the GB. Can you pick and choose wich ideas you follow? hmmmm that is sounding really really apostate to me..... Debator you are on a slippery slope.
"I want to discuss why I might celebrate a worldly holiday" -
I want to talk to apostates - Debator
If you can not see any truth to the above statement, and make an honesty reply from your heart, your thinking, your reasoning I shall continue to ignore your posts and give them as much importance as I give the reasoning book. Debator tell me why you are on this site and why you feel the WT is wrong for saying you shouldnt be here.
humans are unique.
each one is unique in his/her own regard.
like your thumbprint, your life is unlike any life in existence.. .
Dear Debator
My whole life I have been a Jehovah's Witness, along with all of my family and all of my friends, I have all of the books and have all of the years and years of aplying what I "learned" to fully understand the Watchtower point of view. And I also have had a lifetime to feel the effects of these teachings.
The title of this thread is "Birthdays rob the glory of God" and imediatly you went OT and started you preprogramed info. I come to this sight knowing what the preprogramed info is, my purpose in coming to this site is to talk to ones whom like myself have the same background of preprogramed info, and then have gone on to learn and have different ideas and ways of thinking that expand and grow. I may not agree or I may. Either way it expands my mind. Normaly when reading a thread I just ignore your coments and skim past them, yet this topic is about robbing the glory. And Debator you are always trying to rob the glory. You are caught in round and round reasoning that goes no where. You know what the answer is before you look for your proof. You can only get to the answer A because you only are looking for answer A. You have yet to talk about Rom 14. Ding has brought that up 2wice. I would like to continue to disregard your thinking, but why are you here? On an apostate site?
So there it is Debator your Achilles Heal. Proof that you do not agree with all the WT teachings - you are here. So let us choose to disagree with the WT teaching let us actualy debate and discusse things, with out the preprogramed cult teachings spewing from your mouth. Walk the Walk either get of this site go to the elders confess your sins and free yourself from all this bad association. Or choose to look at the topics and actualy think reason and debate. And the thrid option do nothing disrgared me and this post and keep you round and round reasoning. Either way you are in a pickle. You can not be on this site and have a clear christian conscience. (per wt teachings) So i feel dear debator that their is hope for you yet.
I know that I only reciently joined and started to post comments, however I have been spending years reading post on this site. Please Debator do not take offense by my words but look into your heart, and seek out your own "truth"
hi i am trying to find some links and or info please help!
i need to keep my computer "clean" trying to fade and not get df'd.
so i dont save or make files of things i read ect.. i am currenty needing to help my niece who is struggling witht the wt idea that the first century congregations are the model of how the our org today is run.
Thanks Blues Brother great disscusion thread.
i dont know how well this riddle will work in written form, this reminds me so much of the round and round reasoning jw (my mom) uses daily.. three men go skiing, and forgot to book their hotel rooms.
they find a hotel with only one room left, and the three agree to take it and share.
the bell hop kept 2 dollars.
Hi thanks for the welcome sooner!
I take no claims for my hilarity - its all stolen directly from the WTBTS!
Once an Elder might be careful he is sounding apostate!
HAHAHA
i dont know how well this riddle will work in written form, this reminds me so much of the round and round reasoning jw (my mom) uses daily.. three men go skiing, and forgot to book their hotel rooms.
they find a hotel with only one room left, and the three agree to take it and share.
the bell hop kept 2 dollars.
cameo-d
Now you are getting into the "deeper" troofs. please be careful, i would not like to have to forever shun you! Next thing after asking a question like that you will be say things like arent the three men equal or even one??????????
my only nephew, who's mom is inactive and his only exposure to the wt is through my hardcore jw mom, just got a tattoo.
it's of his mom's name, i would have been super excited if it was of a cross, lol.
anyway, i had been so worried about him, because i did not know how deep into the jws he is mentally.
Encourage EDUCATION!!!!!!!
Books, thoughts, concepts, big picture ideas! Falling for a worldly girl couldnt hurt either...lol Good luck!
i dont know how well this riddle will work in written form, this reminds me so much of the round and round reasoning jw (my mom) uses daily.. three men go skiing, and forgot to book their hotel rooms.
they find a hotel with only one room left, and the three agree to take it and share.
the bell hop kept 2 dollars.
Ding Ding Ding Ding ....Ding!
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