Since the word "apostle" means one sent on a mission, it stands to reason that Jesus was an apostle because He was sent by the Father. Jesus sent the 12, so they were Apostles. But the Father and the Son were not the only ones to send. Barnabas, Sylvanus and Timothy were sent by the 12 as messengers or missionaries. In 2 Cor. 8:23 the apostles (messengers or missionaries) are sent by particular churches. See also Phil. 2:25 It is also highly likely that the apostles mentioned in 1 Cor. 12:28 (the charismatic offices of the Church) and Eph. 3:5 and 2 Pet. 3:2 are not meant exclusively of the 12.
Kenneson
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Apostolic Succession ?
by a Christian injames c,.
you wrote: the belief of apostolic succession is not a distinctly roman one.
the orthodox as well as the anglicans hold to it.
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Apostolic Succession ?
by a Christian injames c,.
you wrote: the belief of apostolic succession is not a distinctly roman one.
the orthodox as well as the anglicans hold to it.
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Kenneson
While it is true that the word "apostle" usually refers to the 12 or those like Paul, who had a special appearance of Christ, the New Testament also gives it a broader meaning. Christ Himself is referred to as an apostle in Heb. 3:1. It also can apply to an inferior disciple who was chosen and sent by the Apostles, to preach the Gospel or contribute to its spread. Barnabas is called an apostle, along with Paul in Acts 14:4, 14; Silvanus and Timothy, along with Paul in 1 Thess. 1:1 and 2:6
While the office of the Twelve did not continue, it is obvious that apostolic power was preserved in other officers, otherwise the Church would have come to an end.
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Apostolic Succession ?
by a Christian injames c,.
you wrote: the belief of apostolic succession is not a distinctly roman one.
the orthodox as well as the anglicans hold to it.
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Kenneson
There is a difference between falling away FROM Christianity and the falling away OF Christianity. The former is possible, but the latter is not. If the latter is possible, then Christ's purpose in coming was in vain. He may as well have waited to come until the correct time, if that were the case. Jesus sent the Holy Spirit to guide and teach His followers. If all of them apostasized, the HS would have failed in that mission. That it was never intended for all believers to fall away from Christianity is evident in Matt. 16:18 and Eph.3:21 Are we to imagine that Christ and the Holy Spirit were complete failures and that everyone had to wait for centuries until modern times for some man like Joseph Smith or Charles Taze Russell or anyone else to come along and be able to accomplish what He couldn't? What would have prevented Smith or Russell or anyone else's followers not to apostasize?
That there are heretics in Christianity is evident in Scripture, but that they are able to subvert Christianity is not. Someone passed Christianity along.
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4TH WITNESS is here to expose! Apostates Beware!
by 4THWITNESS inbow before me all opposers and apostates.
you are all deceivers, trying to pull people away from the truth.
but you will not succeed because 4thwitness is now here to expose all of you for the devils children you all are.
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Kenneson
O.K. We have the two witnesses of the Book of Revelation and we have 3d Witness of U.N. fame and now 4th witness. How many more witnesses can the world take?
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New Light...My counter argument - Jn 3:34
by lookingnow25 inso we have probably all had someone confront us with prov.
4:18 about the light getting brighter.
jw's even have their own words for it "new light".
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Kenneson
Why should the oil have anything to do with spiritual enlightenment? The wise virgins were just as much asleep as the foolish ones. Matt. 25:5
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New Light...My counter argument - Jn 3:34
by lookingnow25 inso we have probably all had someone confront us with prov.
4:18 about the light getting brighter.
jw's even have their own words for it "new light".
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Kenneson
Matt. 24:29-30 is also referred to in Joel 2:10, 31. In Acts 2:14-21 Peter says this was fulfilled at Pentecost. "These men are not drunk...No, this is what is spoken by the prophet Joel..."
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Feb. Thread about UN association
by Muney insorry to bring up an old dead thread found here http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/152761/1.ashx .
website: http://www.jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/watchtower-un-ngo/.
i was just wondering if anything that the guy located in the link has to say is true.
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Kenneson
Sarah,
Why don't you and 3d Witness start a campaign to get the Society re-associated with the DPI/UN? I'm sure that 3d's essay has convinced them that they should have never broken off their relationship in the first place. LOL
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Anyone know this website - UN & JWs
by Gordy in<http://www.jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/watchtower-un-ngo/>.
anyone have any answers to what this guy says?.
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Kenneson
Here's another enlightening link:
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Anyone know this website - UN & JWs
by Gordy in<http://www.jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/watchtower-un-ngo/>.
anyone have any answers to what this guy says?.
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Kenneson
There have been several threads on this topic at Topix.com. Here's one I did in March of this year when I received a letter from the U.N.
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-witness/TUIO2D8KN76PVKNUU
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Watchtower Information Service
by Kenneson ini just noticed that watchtower information service is back up.
i'm sure happy to see that because it has some useful info, including watchtower quotes.. http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org.
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Kenneson
I just noticed that Watchtower Information Service is back up. I'm sure happy to see that because it has some useful info, including Watchtower Quotes.