Over-simplified?
Jeeezuuz! The modern Jewish state was born in terrorism, and continues to exist through terrorism.
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Richard Dawkins defends mild pedophilia, says it does not cause lasting harm
by chrisuk inhttp://www.salon.com/2013/09/10/richard_dawkins_defends_mild_pedophilia_says_it_does_not_cause_lasting_harm/.
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We had an interesting case in one congregation I was associated with. (It wasn't pedophilia) A young relative of a member of the branch office was arrested for 'touching up' girls (young adults) in the city. The elders held a JC over until a court dealt with the matter.
The young man was found guilty in a magistrate's court, and placed on probation with a suspended sentence. The JC then privately reprooved him.
My point is that in most legal jurisdictions, the degree of harm in a crime is assessed and is important part of the sentencing. The young man in the above case was clearly in need of psychiatric help (and, that - as I recall - was a court condition), but the argument of some here seems to be that in the above case it should have been treated at the same level as a rape.
Why so?
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The American Way - to Health
by fulltimestudent insome interesting comments:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsjgoubmo0m.
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Some interesting comments:
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Thnx Cofty -
I'm in a dark mood as I consider the personal tragedies in Ukraine and the Gaza strip and the poor bloody kids who have died in both tragedies.
the self-evident truths in the video, earned a smile from me.
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At some point in the future, you WILL be gay.
by rory-ks inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgekcfofaau.
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Cofty:
He's clearly in the closet.
I agree, but living in hope that one day the WT will tell him its OK to have sex with another man.
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Richard Dawkins defends mild pedophilia, says it does not cause lasting harm
by chrisuk inhttp://www.salon.com/2013/09/10/richard_dawkins_defends_mild_pedophilia_says_it_does_not_cause_lasting_harm/.
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This is NOT pedophilia!
Why not?
Because the law in many countries says pedophilia within marriage is NOT a crime.
Here's a National Geographic video showing how widespread the practise is,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c_zppPutQw
Please note, this is not just a problem in Islam, its prevalent in some other religious areas also.
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Richard Dawkins defends mild pedophilia, says it does not cause lasting harm
by chrisuk inhttp://www.salon.com/2013/09/10/richard_dawkins_defends_mild_pedophilia_says_it_does_not_cause_lasting_harm/.
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I guess, before I post, I should make this clear. I am against any person, of any age or sex, being forced or persuaded into any sexual act. ( And that includes, rape within marriage) I am also against Yahweh's use of rape to accomplish his will, as in Yahweh's approval of the Israelite murder of the men of Jabesh Gilead, so that the surviving men of the tribe of Benjamin could rape their widows and fatherless daughters. That story started when the men of Gibeah wanted to gang-rape a travelling Levite, who in order to escape that threat gave them his wife instead. During the night she was gang-raped so many times that by the morning she was dead.
(Read the whole story In Judges chs. 19 to 21)
I am also against Yahweh's use of rape to punish David, when he told David that his wives/concubines would be raped because of David's sin. (2 Samuel 12: 11, 12.
OK, having announced my caveat, that ends my polemics.
Bohm:
... things viewed as acceptable in the past are unacceptable today?
This is the nux of the problem. For centuries, if not for all of human existence as a species, the age of marriage seems to have been just after puberty. In some parts of the world (e.g. Christian Ethiopia) it is still the custom. (I can provide references if anyone wants them.).
An essay by published by SUNY Press (SUNY Press is an international publisher of distinguished research and notable works of general interest for the State University of New York, on the topic, Statutory Rape Laws in Historical Context, the author makes the point that in the Statute of Westminster (1275 CE.), statutory rape was sexual intercourse with a female under 12, (later changed to under 10). In colonial America, legal jurisdictions essentially imported the clauses. Some states (the above text states), set the age of consent as 10 and some 12. ( Reference: http://www.sunypress.edu/pdf/60840.pdf , pp10,11 ) The author explains that the law was not a moral standard, but a law protecting the female property of some male. Also in the Americas, the laws were usually applied to white women only.
That custom started to change in the late 19th and early 20th C, until we reach the position we are in today.
It may be noted that puberty is clearly a change point in the progress of a human to a position of full adulthood. In earlier times, I think it could be argued that once through puberty, an individual may have been seen as a young adult. Not so today, childhood has been (in western societies) extended so that even a youth of 16 can be seen as a child. (and there is some biological evidence, that full maturity (for a male anyway) is not reached until the mid 20s.
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Exodus 24:10 - The Israelites saw Jehovah? Has this scripture ever been explained?
by truthseeker inhas anyone really pondered what this means?
jehovah said that no man can see god and live, and here at least 70 people saw jehovah standing on a bright blue pavement.
24 then the lord said to moses, come up to the lord , you and aaron, nadab and abihu, and seventy of the elders of israel.
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Compare the text with the Genesis account commencing Ch. 18:1.
After 99 y.o Abraham circumcises 13 y.o. Ishmael etc, (Gen. 17:22-27) Yahweh and two other "men" appear to Abraham . Abraham wants to wash his feet and give him some food etc, and Yahweh agrees. Yahweh and the two others who are later identified as angels separate, and the the two angels go onto Sodom, whereas Yahweh just goes on his merry way, (vs 33).
As you see, the concept of what God is and does seems to undergo a lot of modification, particularly if you start from Genesis 1, where this superbeing can create 'the heavens and the earth,' but within 18 chapters can have hs feet washed by his worshipper.
In point of fact most ancient peoples imagined "God" as being able to move among humans, unidentified as "God."
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America's F-35 Fighter- Is it a flop ?
by fulltimestudent inits said to be the most expensive fighter plane in history, but its just been grounded ( yesterday a decison to allow them to fly again,) after a massive engine failure in one plane.. .
little australia is buying another 58 (in addition to another 14 already ordered) of the f-35s at a cost of $aust 12.4 billion dollars, and with an estimated cost of around $12 billion for maintenance programs during its life time.. but its not without opposition - .
government backbencher dennis jensen has condemned the prime ministers $12.4 billion plan to buy 58 f-35 joint strike fighter jets as a great national scandal and worse than a disgrace.. in an extraordinary broadside in parliament on monday night, dr jensen warned that australias national security was being corrupted by an industrial-military complex interested in promoting the global arms trade.. .
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Now the US journal Foreign Policy runs this critical report:
The Pentagon's $399 Billion Plane to Nowhere
The next-generation F-35, the most expensive plane ever built, may be too dangerous to fly. Why is Congress keeping it alive?
That's the question? And, the answer tells us a lot about democracy in the USA.
FP magazine gives this opinion:
the F-35, a juggernaut of a program that apparently has enough political top cover to withstand any storm.
Part of that protection comes from the jaw-dropping amounts of money at stake. The Pentagon intends to spend roughly $399 billion to develop and buy 2,443 of the planes. However, over the course of the aircrafts' lifetimes, operating costs are expected to exceed $1 trillion. Lockheed has carefully hired suppliers and subcontractors in almost every state to ensure that virtually all senators and members of Congress have a stake in keeping the program -- and the jobs it has created -- in place.
We can conclude then that:
1. what we see is pork-barrelling on on enormous scale.
2. That the USA is actually operating on a form of militarised socialism.
3. Socialism is actually a precursor stage in the development of a Communist economy.
4. China is actually planning to sell their SOEs (State Owned Enterprises). So as China becomes more capitalist, the USA becomes more socialist.
What a funny, topsy-turvy world.
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America's F-35 Fighter- Is it a flop ?
by fulltimestudent inits said to be the most expensive fighter plane in history, but its just been grounded ( yesterday a decison to allow them to fly again,) after a massive engine failure in one plane.. .
little australia is buying another 58 (in addition to another 14 already ordered) of the f-35s at a cost of $aust 12.4 billion dollars, and with an estimated cost of around $12 billion for maintenance programs during its life time.. but its not without opposition - .
government backbencher dennis jensen has condemned the prime ministers $12.4 billion plan to buy 58 f-35 joint strike fighter jets as a great national scandal and worse than a disgrace.. in an extraordinary broadside in parliament on monday night, dr jensen warned that australias national security was being corrupted by an industrial-military complex interested in promoting the global arms trade.. .
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Its said to be the most expensive fighter plane in History, but its just been grounded ( yesterday a decison to allow them to fly again,) after a massive engine failure in one plane.
Little Australia is buying another 58 (in addition to another 14 already ordered) of the F-35s at a cost of $Aust 12.4 billion dollars, and with an estimated cost of around $12 billion for maintenance programs during its life time.
But its not without opposition -
Government backbencher Dennis Jensen has condemned the Prime Minister’s $12.4 billion plan to buy 58 F-35 Joint Strike Fighter jets as a “great national scandal” and “worse than a disgrace”.
In an extraordinary broadside in Parliament on Monday night, Dr Jensen warned that Australia’s national security was being corrupted by an “industrial-military complex” interested in promoting the global arms trade.
But Dr Jensen argued the F-35 was an inferior aircraft to those being developed by “potential threat nations”.
He said the F-35’s US manufacturer, Lockheed Martin, had misled countries seeking to buy the jets over their cost, capability and readiness. He cited a RAND Corporation assessment of the F-35 as a fighter that “can’t turn, can’t run, can’t climb”.
“The simple fact is, Lockheed Martin and the military-industrial complex may be selling the US, Australia, and allies a pup, but nations that may not be friendly to us are not buying the pitch.”
“It is time to end the madness,” Dr Jensen told Parliament. “It is time to scrap the JSF.”
