Witness 007: He comes across as an arrogant little turd....I hope they drop a cruise missile on his head...allah be praised.
But isn't he just a mirror image of the Aussie PM, Tony Abbott, and his side-kick, FM Julie Bishop?
i think i'm going to get flamed for this, but it needs to be said.. this kid is full of bravado, and if his head is as stuffed full of muslim ideology, as my head was once stuffed full of christian ideology, he probably believes that allah (the other face of yahweh) wants him to do it, and that if he dies in the effort, he will be rewarded in paradise.. before i post his story, please consider that the ideology of martyrdom, has both a christian face and a muslim face.
ignatius, the second bishop of antioch, wanted to die for jesus, just as the young man in the following story, likely imagines that he is willing to die for allah.. ok, that's out of the way, so here's the story:.
bankstown boy threatens prime minister tony abbott in islamic state recruitment videodate: october 21, 2014 david wroe and natalie o'brien.
Witness 007: He comes across as an arrogant little turd....I hope they drop a cruise missile on his head...allah be praised.
But isn't he just a mirror image of the Aussie PM, Tony Abbott, and his side-kick, FM Julie Bishop?
i think i'm going to get flamed for this, but it needs to be said.. this kid is full of bravado, and if his head is as stuffed full of muslim ideology, as my head was once stuffed full of christian ideology, he probably believes that allah (the other face of yahweh) wants him to do it, and that if he dies in the effort, he will be rewarded in paradise.. before i post his story, please consider that the ideology of martyrdom, has both a christian face and a muslim face.
ignatius, the second bishop of antioch, wanted to die for jesus, just as the young man in the following story, likely imagines that he is willing to die for allah.. ok, that's out of the way, so here's the story:.
bankstown boy threatens prime minister tony abbott in islamic state recruitment videodate: october 21, 2014 david wroe and natalie o'brien.
The confrontation between the CHRISTIAN west (i.e. Europe) and the MUSLIM world has a long history. Around 1095 CE Pope UrbanII organised an attack on Muslims west Asia.
But the Muslim-Christian confrontation was already centuries old. The eruption of the Arabs from the Arab Peninsula In the 630s the Arabs erupted from the Arabian peninsula and swept over the Christian Byzantine Empire's territories of Egypt and Syria. Over the next fifty years, under the aggressive Umayyad caliphs, the Muslims would launch repeated raids into still-Byzantine Asia Minor, twice threaten the Byzantine capital, Constantinople, and conquer the Byzantine Exarchate of (north) Africa.
What we are seeing now, is just a continuation of that struggle.
I cannot offer a solution.
i think i'm going to get flamed for this, but it needs to be said.. this kid is full of bravado, and if his head is as stuffed full of muslim ideology, as my head was once stuffed full of christian ideology, he probably believes that allah (the other face of yahweh) wants him to do it, and that if he dies in the effort, he will be rewarded in paradise.. before i post his story, please consider that the ideology of martyrdom, has both a christian face and a muslim face.
ignatius, the second bishop of antioch, wanted to die for jesus, just as the young man in the following story, likely imagines that he is willing to die for allah.. ok, that's out of the way, so here's the story:.
bankstown boy threatens prime minister tony abbott in islamic state recruitment videodate: october 21, 2014 david wroe and natalie o'brien.
On the link:
there is a video of the kid in the story giving a speech, listen to it and then reflect, how a boy growing up in Sydney, came to feel like that?
i think i'm going to get flamed for this, but it needs to be said.. this kid is full of bravado, and if his head is as stuffed full of muslim ideology, as my head was once stuffed full of christian ideology, he probably believes that allah (the other face of yahweh) wants him to do it, and that if he dies in the effort, he will be rewarded in paradise.. before i post his story, please consider that the ideology of martyrdom, has both a christian face and a muslim face.
ignatius, the second bishop of antioch, wanted to die for jesus, just as the young man in the following story, likely imagines that he is willing to die for allah.. ok, that's out of the way, so here's the story:.
bankstown boy threatens prime minister tony abbott in islamic state recruitment videodate: october 21, 2014 david wroe and natalie o'brien.
I think I'm going to get flamed for this, but it needs to be said.
This kid is full of bravado, and if his head is as stuffed full of Muslim ideology, as my head was once stuffed full of Christian ideology, he probably believes that Allah (the other face of Yahweh) wants him to do it, and that if he dies in the effort, he will be rewarded in paradise.
Before I post his story, please consider that the ideology of martyrdom, has both a Christian face and a Muslim face. Ignatius, the second bishop of Antioch, wanted to die for Jesus, just as the young man in the following story, likely imagines that he is willing to die for Allah.
OK, that's out of the way, so here's the story:
Bankstown boy threatens Prime Minister Tony Abbott in Islamic State recruitment video
- Date: October 21, 2014
David Wroe and Natalie O'Brien
A Sydney teenager has emerged as a poster boy for the Islamic State, appearing in a chilling recruitment video threatening Prime Minister Tony Abbott and vowing the militant group will fight until it conquers the West.
Abdullah Elmir, 17, stars in a video posted on the internet overnight on Monday under the nom de guerre "Abu Khaled from Australia". He is dressed in military gear and holding an assault rifle, surrounded by several dozen heavily armed fellow jihadists.
The teenager ran away from his Bankstown family home just four months ago, taking his parents by surprise and raising questions as to how he had been radicalised and who had organised his travel.
The video comes as RAAF Super Hornets continue to fly combat missions over Iraq and a day after the Abbott government announced it had agreed with Baghdad to send Australian special forces to help in the fight against the Islamic State.
Abdullah baits Australia, the US and Britain to throw everything they have against the Islamic State and appears to threaten "tyrant" Western leaders such as Mr Abbott with beheading.
"To the leaders, to Obama, to Tony Abbott, I say this: these weapons that we have, these soldiers, we will not stop fighting," he says.
"We will not put down our weapons until we reach your lands, until we take the head of every tyrant and until the black flag is flying high in every single land, until we put the black flag on top of Buckingham Palace, until we put the black flag on top of the White House."
It is the first time the Islamic State, also known as ISIL, has specifically mentioned the Prime Minister in one of its major propaganda videos. It is also the most prominent role so far given to an Australian jihadist.
A spokeswoman for Mr Abbott said the video "again highlights the threat posed by ISIL".
"As the Prime Minister has said on many occasions, ISIL is a threat that reaches out to Australia and our allies and partners," she said.
The video is the fourth in a series called "Message of the Mujahid" which features foreign fighters, with previous releases showing British, French and Moroccan jihadists.
The Grand Mufti of Australia, Dr Ibrahim Abu Mohammad, urged Muslims to reject calls from abroad to commit violence against Australia and said it was "utterly deplorable for violent extremists to use Islam as a cover for their crimes and atrocities".
In a joint statement, the nation's peak Muslim organisations expressed "profound concerns and sadness" over Abdullah's appearance in the Islamic State video and said there was an "urgent need" to examine how and why the teenager felt the need to leave the country and fight with a terrorist organisation.
The family has previously expressed concerns that Abdullah was under surveillance by federal authorities while in Australia but allowed to leave the country.
Greg Barton, a terrorism expert at Monash University, said the video was "primarily a recruitment video", showing a youthful recent arrival to the Middle East in the spotlight among older, more seasoned-looking fighters.
"If you're trying to impress young recruits, it targets the fact that he's centre stage and conveys the message that you get straight into the action," he said.
Abdullah ran away from his Bankstown home in June shortly after his 17th birthday, accompanied by a 16-year-old friend known only as Feiz.
He told his mother he was going on a fishing trip before he disappeared. His family discovered that he had left the country only after he sent a text message to another family member asking them to tell his mother he had "gone".
The pair caught flights to Perth then Malaysia, Thailand and finally on to Turkey.
From there, they contacted family and said they were going over the border. Abdullah's family presumed he meant he was going to Syria or Iraq to fight. They have been calling on authorities to help bring him home.
Feiz was intercepted by his father while he was en route to Iraq and taken to Lebanon. Feiz returned to Sydney quietly last month.
Abdullah's family have said they are shocked and devastated. They believe he has been "brainwashed" and they want to know who paid for his air ticket and encouraged him to go.
They have described him as academically bright and caring.
after a one year sucessful fade and no longer associated with any congreation, i was visiting my sister this week (who goes to the meeting to please her husband for now; i am slowly planting seeds though) and they decided to year this weeks midweek meeting via the telephone.
since i was a guest in her house, i sat with them in the living room to hear the meeting.
to my surprise (especially growing up as a gay jw with still alot of anger in my heart over how i was treated), the talks 2 and 3 where on, of course, homosexualiy.
I'm sure you;ll be able to work it all out, Island man.
after a one year sucessful fade and no longer associated with any congreation, i was visiting my sister this week (who goes to the meeting to please her husband for now; i am slowly planting seeds though) and they decided to year this weeks midweek meeting via the telephone.
since i was a guest in her house, i sat with them in the living room to hear the meeting.
to my surprise (especially growing up as a gay jw with still alot of anger in my heart over how i was treated), the talks 2 and 3 where on, of course, homosexualiy.
Simon: There used to be a brother in the KH that in hindsight was likely gay and he committed suicide. Why? Why do that to yourself? I just don't understand.
Thought about it a lot, Simon.
A kid in a group, for which I was the study conductor, also killed himself. Tried chemicals one week and failed after hospitalisation. Two weeks later he succeeded, blowing his brains out in the family garage. A problem with homosexuality tendencies, is the most likely explanation also.
How I wish I could turn the clock back.
My thoughts are, that suicide for this reason, has to do with our need for social acceptance on one hand, and on the other, it has to do with a self concept of purity. (which is why I was arguing above against someone else's concept of disgust at two men having sex). Purity laws must have some psychological root, they exist not just in Judeao-Christianity but in a range of other religions, and are most rigid when it comes to sex. It's not until we get to Tantric thought (in Buddhism, anyway) that deviating sexual practise can be pure).
Wish I could post a drawing, preserved in Japanese archives, as a national treasure. But, I suspect it would cause a riot, because in the America of today it would be classified as pornography.
yeah yeah---i know--spiritual food.. .
or maybe---beans ( human beans ).
for those on here who still believe in a god---how do you perceive him / her / it ?.
Theredeemer: Does he take a holy shit?
Yes! and miraclously transforms it into printed words in a book he called, The Holy Bible. It's all shit, isn't it
not only does it steal your time from earning a living and having personal time, it also costs you real $$$ in fuel vehicle costs and maintainance .
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hoser: Not only does it steal your time from earning a living and having personal time, it also costs you real $$$ in fuel vehicle costs and maintainance
Absolutely! My personal insanity was that I took the Bible seriously, I wanted to be a footstep follower of Jesus, imitating him, in the also insane idea that Yahweh would look after me.
Do you think I was clinically insane? I think I probably was.
Magnum: AMEN!!! I've said that many, many times. I figured that my years of pioneering cost me over a million,
At least, and that was in the dollars of forty years ago. If I had that much now, I would be on top of the world.
So I was clinically insane-smile!
the biblical archeological review journal is running a caption contest.
you have to submit your idea of a snappy caption for this image:.
it's based on proverbs 26:3 which says (in case you no longer own a bible-grin):.
The Biblical Archeological Review journal is running a Caption contest. You have to submit your idea of a snappy caption for this image:
It's based on Proverbs 26:3 which says (in case you no longer own a Bible-grin):
A whip for the horse, a bridle for the donkey, and a rod for the backs of fools!
Can't think of any smart-arsed thing to say, myself - so I offer you clever guys and gals the opportunity to win.
You can find details and entry form at:
i saw some jw's in my neighbourhood today from my ex kh.
they were on the ministry and happened to call at my door!!.
i calmly explained i had da'd and now went to a regular church.
That's great to hear QCF.
I understand the anger, I've experienced it myself, as I've considered all those wasted years!
But, we are free! And, that is a reason to be joyful.