Posts by InterestedOne

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How Modern Christianity has failed Christians

by Christ Alone in

i've recently been thinking about our culture and how christianity in our western culture has failed to keep up with advancements in science.

) churches have let reason sink into the intellectual closet of fundamentalism.

"feel good" churches seem to be the norm today.

InterestedOne

Christ Alone wrote:

We’ve got to train our kids for war.

I don't like the attitude you have expressed above & suggest reading the following:

http://www.limbicnutrition.com/blog/resources/a-code-of-conduct-for-effective-rational-discussion/

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Can you equate Jehovah as a murderer???

by cognac in

jw
friends

had this long talk with hubby about the fact that if you allow your child to die because of the blood issue you are no different then a murderer.

he said then jehovah is a murderer because he allowed his son to die.

he knew what was going to happen and allowed it when he could have stopped it..... hmmmm, not sure how to wrap my brain around that.

That's what I meant. I was trying to present two categories in my sentence: 1) babies - completely innocent, and 2) individuals that may not have been particularly evil - like average everyday people living in the areas where God murdered everybody. Maybe those average people weren't perfect, but jeez, to murder them all comes across as unacceptable behavior to many of us today.

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Can you equate Jehovah as a murderer???

by cognac in

jw
friends

had this long talk with hubby about the fact that if you allow your child to die because of the blood issue you are no different then a murderer.

he said then jehovah is a murderer because he allowed his son to die.

he knew what was going to happen and allowed it when he could have stopped it..... hmmmm, not sure how to wrap my brain around that.

InterestedOne

PSacramento wrote:

If God acted in the past and killed off people that were evil and causing trouble and we now look back and say that was horrific, that is understandable but why then ask or suggest God to be uncaring or powerless to prevent evil right now when God DOESN'T do just that, stop and kill of evil doers in the present?

When people criticize God's behavior in OT times as horrific, they are usually thinking more of him killing babies and individuals that may not have been particularly evil. When considering God today, no one is suggesting that he should start killing babies again. Rather, they are asking why God doesn't stop crimes that any decent person would stop, e.g. if you saw someone getting attacked on the street you would try to stop it (call the police, try to disarm the attacker, etc.).

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Can you equate Jehovah as a murderer???

by cognac in

jw
friends

had this long talk with hubby about the fact that if you allow your child to die because of the blood issue you are no different then a murderer.

he said then jehovah is a murderer because he allowed his son to die.

he knew what was going to happen and allowed it when he could have stopped it..... hmmmm, not sure how to wrap my brain around that.

InterestedOne

cognac wrote:

hmmmm, not sure how to wrap my brain around that.

To me it seems pretty obvious that Jehovah is a murderer. From the last time I looked in the Bible, I recall reading that Jehovah murdered lots of people. Plus, your husband's logic of "he knew what was going to happen and allowed it when he could have stopped it" applies to plenty of situations. For example, if you saw an elderly woman getting attacked by a purse-snatcher, you would probably do something to stop the purse-snatcher, yet Jehovah allows it to happen.

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Would I be the punching bag?

by NeverKnew in

poor cognac's challenge has me thinking.. as a non-jw, if i were to marry this jw, would the congregation attribute problems we would encounter to him being married to me?

i don't want to be a punching bag.

couples have challenges.

InterestedOne

Use the search feature on this site to look up kissing a corpse. The society puts some weird ideas in its followers' minds.

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FEBRUARY 1ST 2013 WT TRACTAZINE!!! LIGHT GETTING BRIGHTER!!!!

by DATA-DOG in

at my last meeting i picked up the new feb 1, 2013 wt.

my first reaction was " is this a joke?

" i said so out loud to the literature servant.

InterestedOne

2+2=5 wrote:

How does anyone not see it.

By shifting one's attention, changing context, and minimizing (or exaggerating depending on what serves to make one appear to be right) the issue being considered.

If one is a JW criticizing Mormons, a doctrinal problem met with a Mormon "light gets brighter" response shows that Mormonism is an inadequate religion.

If one is a JW receiving criticism, a doctrinal problem met with a JW "light gets brighter" response shows that the critic is nit-picking and impatient.

The JW is always right, and that's that.

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Be Careful, Demons are in EVERYTHING!

by TeenageInsider in

my parents always says that demons are everywhere!

it's getting quite annoying!

they claims demons are in smurfs?

InterestedOne

One of my JW acquaintance's proofs of demons is that one time, when she and her friend were driving down the highway, the street lamps started turning off. She is convinced a demon was following her friend through electricity. She won't talk to me anymore, but if we did talk, I would try to explain that those lights are on an energy-saving program and turn off periodically. I doubt she would believe me though. I suspect she thinks I have a demon and am trying to trick her - you know how crafty those demons are.

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YouTube Series on Salvation and what it actually is for JW's, Mormons, SDA

by Ticker in

thank you for taking the time to check out my post,.

i wanted to bring a series of youtube videos to anyones attention that has interest in learning about salvation through the lord jesus christ in contrast to what the watchtower, mormons, sda, baha'i and other similar legalistic works based relgions teach.

i think it would be beneficial for ones who may be questioning or want to be better equiped in reaching jw's with the gospel message.

InterestedOne

Ticker wrote:

Now I ask if you can show evidence that death is not due to sin?

I never claimed that death is not due to sin. I said I do not know what causes death. On the other hand, you claim that death is due to sin. When you make a claim, you have the responsibility to prove your claim.

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YouTube Series on Salvation and what it actually is for JW's, Mormons, SDA

by Ticker in

thank you for taking the time to check out my post,.

i wanted to bring a series of youtube videos to anyones attention that has interest in learning about salvation through the lord jesus christ in contrast to what the watchtower, mormons, sda, baha'i and other similar legalistic works based relgions teach.

i think it would be beneficial for ones who may be questioning or want to be better equiped in reaching jw's with the gospel message.

InterestedOne

Ticker: You have not provided evidence that death is -due to- sin. I know from observation that living things die. Beyond that, I am not able to say -why- they die. You have claimed that sin is the reason -why- living things die, but you have not provided evidence to prove this claim. Nevertheless, in your OP, you said:

not enough people question but rather swallow views presented without first determining the evidence to prove it so.

I agree and am waiting for evidence to prove it so.

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YouTube Series on Salvation and what it actually is for JW's, Mormons, SDA

by Ticker in

thank you for taking the time to check out my post,.

i wanted to bring a series of youtube videos to anyones attention that has interest in learning about salvation through the lord jesus christ in contrast to what the watchtower, mormons, sda, baha'i and other similar legalistic works based relgions teach.

i think it would be beneficial for ones who may be questioning or want to be better equiped in reaching jw's with the gospel message.

InterestedOne

unstopableravens wrote:

if god spoke it is a fact!

-if- God spoke it. Please prove that the -if- part is true.

I am leaving to visit family.