Posts by Kent

Thats funny, I do not remember 50,000 Americans signing up to be part of the Waffen SS, the Kriegsmarine, or the Luftwaffe. So I guess Norwegians supporting Hitler is OK but the US supporting Saddam is wrong?

I don't know who you are, Crazy151drinker, but something tells me you should drink a bit less. Who talked about 50.000 americans signing up for the SS? I see you claim 50.000 Norwegians did, without any evidence of that claim, of course.

Facts are Germans joined the SS and the Kriegsmarine, as Americans join Marines, Delta Force, Rangers, Navy Seals and any other psycopath gang. There will always be people willing to kill others just for the fun of it. Or people being willing to kill others because an insane leader like Bush, Stalin, Hitler or other mainiacs tells them to.

As long as they have people like you around, they can keep on running their stuff as they want. They know their followers can put a 45 magnum in their forehead and pull the trigger. One thing is certain - they won't hit anything remotedly connected to thinking ability!

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How Come The US Media is Silent?

by Kent in

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how come the us media haven't mentioned a word about us troops abusing children in iraq, in their prisons and on cuba?

it's all over europe - but inside the us the subject is never mentioned.. so much for the "land of freedom" (for war criminals!

Kent

Perhaps because the US public intuitively understands the breathtaking foolishness of the European position.

Anyone who can write something like this is simply to naive to be taken seriously, my friend. So I won't spend any time answering your drivel. I'd say the US people have the president they deserve.

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How Come The US Media is Silent?

by Kent in

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how come the us media haven't mentioned a word about us troops abusing children in iraq, in their prisons and on cuba?

it's all over europe - but inside the us the subject is never mentioned.. so much for the "land of freedom" (for war criminals!

Kent

Perhaps it's because we require as proof more than an allegation by an obviously leftist magazine.

Well, the proof out there is a bit more than "an allegation by an obviously leftist magazine". Quite often the so called "leftist" papers are more trustworthy than the other side. Quite in the other end we find Fox-News, right? I guess there isn't many who are stupid enough to believe anything said on that channel. Personally I don't even trust their watches to be correct!

The problem is, Jerusalym, that the press has its owners. And quite often these owners do put pressure on the coward of an editor working there, and news aren't printed. IF it is, it's quite often twisted. Of course there are others with an axe to grind, but that's normally easy to spot.

Today there is enough evidence to prove the war on Iraq was illigal, unfunded, based upon lies, only made for profit.

The same goes on in Israel. That government can do whatever they want, and if anyone protests, they are "anti-semites" or something worse. Typical! Who is today talking about the fact that former prome minister Yitzak Shamir when he was in the terrorist-group "The Stern-gang" actually tried to make a deal with Hitler himself? Nobody cares, anymore. The fact both he and Menahem Begin was sentenced to death by the English doesn't matter either - and nobody in the US will say anything about that either. After all, jews mostly owns the papers - or some fundamentalistic religious group - and they're not interested.

Facts are what the press tells you - if you don't check for yourself. There is more than enough papers around the world - making English editions online - who doesn't care what Bush and Blair wants them to say. Check them out!

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How Come The US Media is Silent?

by Kent in

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how come the us media haven't mentioned a word about us troops abusing children in iraq, in their prisons and on cuba?

it's all over europe - but inside the us the subject is never mentioned.. so much for the "land of freedom" (for war criminals!

Kent

Yeah, of course. The only news you trust is, I presume, Fox News?

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How Come The US Media is Silent?

by Kent in

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how come the us media haven't mentioned a word about us troops abusing children in iraq, in their prisons and on cuba?

it's all over europe - but inside the us the subject is never mentioned.. so much for the "land of freedom" (for war criminals!

Kent

Tragic. I haven't heard this anywhere here, but don't doubt its accuracy. Some things that this country does, and approves of, just breaks my heart.

Well, Mulan. The US government has supported all the greatest bastards in the world. And, if a diktator didn't make it to become the diktator, the US has always been more than willing to help out by starting a "revolution", assasinate the ruler, or whatever. The only demand was, of course, that the diktator supported the US and let them do what the f*** they wanted! What about Saddam Hussein? Whi trained him? CIA. Who supported him with weapons of "mass destruction"? The US, GB, Germany and France. Most of his chemical shit he got from the US to kill Iranian soldiers, because Bush Sr didn't like Ayatollah Khomeini. Ol' Rummy himself was in Bahgdad talking to Saddam as best friends and allies. Who trained Bin Laden? CIA. Who trained his men? CIA. Where? In the US. Why isn't he captured? Well, maybe he is, actually - we'll se a bit later in the ongoing campaign in the US. Some repports imply so. But they actually DID HAVE HIM in the Bora Bora mountains. The US had enough troops, marines, airforce and all they wanted. BUT - they left it to Afghan War-Chiefs - who were their enemies just a month earlier - to capture him. WHY? Ask Bush, who started this war to get oil-pipes through Afghanistan from Baku. And he couldn't get that oilpipe with Taliban ruling. The US history is a shame. What diktators and despots do they support today? Make a list, please. What diktators and despots have they NOT supported? That list is much, much shorter. Who assasinated the General Secretary of the UN in Congo? The US. Who assasinated the legal ruler of the country? The US. Who did put a diktator in power there? The US. The list of what the US have actually done is so long I'm amazed any country will ever trust a US government ever!

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How Come The US Media is Silent?

by Kent in

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how come the us media haven't mentioned a word about us troops abusing children in iraq, in their prisons and on cuba?

it's all over europe - but inside the us the subject is never mentioned.. so much for the "land of freedom" (for war criminals!

Kent

Yeah. There is a lot of information about this online, from different sources. Here is a few:

http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article823183.ece

http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/000732.html

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0520-07.htm

UNICEF: http://www.independent-media.tv/item.cfm?fmedia_id=7102&fcategory_desc=Breaking%20International%20Law

http://www.paktribune.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2145

http://www.norwaypost.no/content.asp?cluster_id=25740&folder_id=1

http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=1792

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/GEO549671.htm

http://english.daralhayat.com/opinion/07-2004/Article-20040712-b4ff2d9d-c0a8-01ed-006a-393233b3e507/story.html

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/jul2004/sff2-j13.shtml

The Danish are worried: http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200407/s1150938.htm

MORE THAN 100 CHILDREN IMPRISONED; REPORT OF ABUSE BY U.S. SOLDIERS. http://www.infoshop.org/inews/stories.php?story=04/07/09/9371844

Arrest and abuse of Iraqi children revealed: http://www.granma.cu/ingles/2004/julio/mar6/28revela.html

http://www.aljazira.it/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=195&Itemid=

http://www.aljazeerah.info/Opinion%20editorials/2004%20opinions/July/9o/A%20Comparative%20view%20of%20Iraq-Vietnam%20Wars%20By%20Richard%20Pelto.htm

http://news.pacificnews.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=1941a34b82df9ba21313aa524fa3c666

http://www.capetimes.co.za/index.php?fSectionId=272&fArticleId=2139119

http://hrw.org/english/docs/2004/07/07/usint9009_txt.htm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3698879.stm

More Than 100 Children Imprisoned http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6430.htm

All in all one have to be blind not to see what's going on. Just try to write iraq abuse children into the GOOGLE search engine, and you will get so much evidence you need to be an idiot or an extremely patriotic American not to see the facts.

Anyone from the GB (since when was it Great??) should also be ashamed of themselves - as we should in Norway. Our government were talking about our troops in Iraq doing humanitarian work, while the military personell stressed they were in war! In England most people wouldn't like their soldiers to go to Iraq, but the ultra right Christian Tony Blair wanted it otherwise. Of course, he's together with ol' coke-sniffing burbod-drinking Bush on his "crusade" to whip the nasty muslimiacs!

Upon time these people were whipped real good - and sendt to the frontlines themselves!

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How Come The US Media is Silent?

by Kent in

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how come the us media haven't mentioned a word about us troops abusing children in iraq, in their prisons and on cuba?

it's all over europe - but inside the us the subject is never mentioned.. so much for the "land of freedom" (for war criminals!

Kent

Internal UNICEF report: USA intern children for an indefinite time without legal process

According to inquiries undertaken by the ARD political magazine REPORT MAINZ, indications increase that, within Iraqi prisons, US soldiers even mistreated children and youngsters. Two different sources independently recorded the inhuman treatment of imprisoned minors within the premises of the scandalous prison Abu Ghreib, according to REPORT MAINZ.

Samuel Provance, sergeant of the military secret service, and who was stationed at Abu Ghreib, in an exclusive interview with REPORT MAINZ reported that US interrogation specialists importuned a girl inside her cell. Military police did not intervene until the 15 to 16 year odl girl was half naked.

According to Provance, a 16 year old boy was showered with water and then driven through the cold (night). Afterwards they ?smeared? the boy ?with mud? and presented him to his father who was prisoned as well. ?After he saw his son in such condition his heart broke?, says Provance. ?He cried and promised to tell everything he knew?.

A reporter with the Arab TV station Al-Jazeera, Suhaib Badr-Addin Al-Baz, himself prisoned for 74 days at Abu Ghreib, told REPORT MAINZ, how a 12 year old girl was knocked around by US soldiers. The Journalist was the first to inform about a prison camp for children. ?When they brought me from the cell into the camp, there was an independent camp for children, young, below puberty. For sure there were hundreds of children in that camp.?

The United Nations Children?s Fund (UNICEF) acknowleged the imprisonment of Iraqi children through foreign military personnell. REPORT MAINZ has available an internal report of the Children?s Fund, from which it becomes apparent that the occupation forces hold Iraqi children as prisoners of war in internment custody. Verbatim it says in the yet undisclosed report, dated June 2004: ?Children, which were arrested for reasons of alleged activities against the occupation forces in Basra and Kerbala, were routinely handed over to an internment custody in Um Quasr, according to reports. The categorisation of such children as ?internments?is alarming, as it means indetermined custody without contact to the family, the prospect of a process or trial.?

Additionally the UNICEF document mentiones a new established prison camp for children in Baghdad. In July 2003 UNICEF applied for a visit of this installation. However, UNICEF was barred from entering. Says the report: ?Insufficient security within the premises of this prison camp? has banned independent observers ?since December 2003?.

Also the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) confirms the internment of children and youngsters through the coalition forces; among others in the infamous torture prison of Abu Ghreib. Florian Westphal, speaker of the ICRC in Geneva, tild REPORT MAINZ: ?Between January and May this year we registered 107 children, and this in the wake of 19 visits on six different prison premises. Here it needs to be emphasised that these are prison compounds who really are controlled by the coalition forces.? The number of prisoned children may well be higher than this.

According to the internal UNICEF report the Children?s Fund ?via a variety of channels? tries to find out more in regard to the internment conditions of childrens, and ?to ensure that their rights do not get infringed?.

The British Ministry of Defence informed REPORT MAINZ not to keep any imprisoned children in Iraq at this time. The US Ministry of Defence until now did not show any reaction towards a submitted request.

The Human Rights Organisation Amnesty International in REPORT MAINZ demands clarification about internments of children. Barbara Lochbihler, general secretary of the German section, declared: ?The US government has to reply to this report. It has to provide precise information: How old are the children, what are the reasons for internment, what were the circumstances of them being taken prisoners, and whether children were subjected to torture and mistreatment.?

Barbara Lochbihler further: ?The report is dated June 2004 and what is infuriating is that those US persons in charge and the governments seem not to have taken it up in earnest to throw light on such incidents. (...) And here we even do not know the names of the children, how many children we talk about. Independent inspections are unwanted. This is scandalous.?

Also the internal UNICEF document displays severe criticism towards the practice of internment by the occupation forces. Verbatim it says: ?The perceived unjustified internment of male Iraqis, including minors, on suspicion of activities against the occupation forces, has become a major reason for the growing frustration among male youngsters and a potential for radicalisation among this part of the population.?

http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=1797

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How Come The US Media is Silent?

by Kent in

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how come the us media haven't mentioned a word about us troops abusing children in iraq, in their prisons and on cuba?

it's all over europe - but inside the us the subject is never mentioned.. so much for the "land of freedom" (for war criminals!

Kent

How come the US Media haven't mentioned a word about US troops abusing children in Iraq, in their prisons and on Cuba? It's all over Europe - but inside the US the subject is never mentioned.

So much for the "Land of Freedom" (for War Criminals!)