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  Bizarre news story

  by BoozeRunner in

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  heres a bizarre story....tell me what you think!.

  court shouldn't regulate one's right to have sex .

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  To peaceloveharmony,

  Yes there is supposed to be a limit as to how much the courts can with hold. And sometimes the courts do get ridiculous and set an amount that's low but set the arrears high. Usually, if the cs is low and the ncp owes arrears, they'll set the arrears high. If the cs is high, they'll set the arrears low. Overtime, since its not promised to you, isn't supposed to be counted, but many times it is. Where I'm from, Buffalo,NY, its 17% for 1, 25% for 2, 29% for 3, 31% for 4 and no more than 35% for 5 or more kids. The courts do try to be slick and then the ncp's end up dragging the cp's back to court. Many times, the judge will tell the ncp, depending on if they get paid weekly or biweekly. Come back after you have 2 checks and lets see what your check looks like and we'll make the changes then. I feel, you go off of what my employer says I make and after taxes, cs and all come out, if I don't have enough to pay my bills, rent, gas,electric, food, bus card or gas, my essential items, its getting lowered.
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  Bizarre news story

  by BoozeRunner in

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  heres a bizarre story....tell me what you think!.

  court shouldn't regulate one's right to have sex .

  by kathleen parker .

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  To bigboi,

  This is in regards to your comment to Lisa. Do you feel that all females that become pregnant, knowing that the daddy won't or can't take care of them and they know they don't have any money either, should automatically have their babies killed? If I'm misunderstanding you, please correct me. If 2 people chose not to use anything and they get pregnant, take care of your responsility anyways. If you have to work at Burger King, McDonald's or pick up pop and beer cans, handle your business. There was no one in the room that told you not to use anything, you knew damned well what could happen. Deal with it.
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  Bizarre news story

  by BoozeRunner in

  1. jw
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  heres a bizarre story....tell me what you think!.

  court shouldn't regulate one's right to have sex .

  by kathleen parker .

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  To Boozerunner,

  I hear you, we can only go by the info from the article. I would've sentenced him to find a decent job, if he doesn't have one, to where he could take care of his kids and have enough money to live off of to. And believe me, I know that there is a nationwide effort to collect cs from all those ncp's but what are the courts doing about it? I know several ncp's whose checks are being garnished and most of the arguments I hear are, the court ordered me to pay to much and now I don't have enough to pay my own bills. That's what makes the ncp's quit or find a way to get fired so that they don't have to pay. The judges should think about that. They aren't the ones who's paychecks are being snatched. Maybe if they were in the same boat, they'd sentence differently. And of course the judge, majority of the time, isn't going to ask the cp for proof of their income, though its supposed to be calculated using both.
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  Bizarre news story

  by BoozeRunner in

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  heres a bizarre story....tell me what you think!.

  court shouldn't regulate one's right to have sex .

  by kathleen parker .

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  To Claudia,

  I hear what your saying. All and all, its the kids that are suffering.

  To Peaceloveharmoney,

  For where I live, which is in Buffalo, NY, their last resort is jail and if it does come down to that, they can only sent you there for 6 months. That's 6 months worth of cs that when the ncp gets out of jail, the cp will take them back to court and then they'll really be owed money. And as far as the driving license, people know how to catch the bus or drive other people's cars, happens all the time. With the license also, if the ncp sends in a payment of a nice amount, they'll restore it anyways. The ncp could send in $10 or 20 a week and that would satisfy them. There's ways of getting around the system, if you really want to.
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  Bizarre news story

  by BoozeRunner in

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  heres a bizarre story....tell me what you think!.

  court shouldn't regulate one's right to have sex .

  by kathleen parker .

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  To bigboi,

  As I said before, these females chose to have sex with him, unprotected at that. If you know that your going to be sexually active, get bc, foam, gel, iud,cap, female condom, have a supply of everything, the shot, what ever. If the guy says you take care of bc or he doesn't want to use anything then that means you don't open your legs. These kids aren't mistakes or accidents. These parents knew what they were doing when they had unprotected sex. I'm so sick and tired of people calling kids mistakes and accidents. This is 2001, people know enough put the sex organs in the right place and they know enough to use something if they didn't want any kids or didn't want any diseases. Obviously, they didn't care. If the judge can order him to not have any more kids under certain circumstances unless he can pay up and continue to, then he should be able to order the mothers not to have any more kids also. The mothers should have jobs regardless to whether daddy dearest does anyways. When the kids get older, they'll understand what their sperm donar was about.
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  Bizarre news story

  by BoozeRunner in

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  heres a bizarre story....tell me what you think!.

  court shouldn't regulate one's right to have sex .

  by kathleen parker .

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  To boozerunner,

  He did, as far as we know, father these 9 kids. I think that later on he'll try to bring in an excuse to have DNA tests brought in to maybe excuse him from some responsibility. Its not the issue that hee doesn't have a means to take care of them, its the fact that he doesn't want to. I believe he has a job but he just doesn't want to shed out those checks everymonth. There's a big difference with someone who has a job and can pay vs someone who doesn't have a job and can't pay. And these kids aren't burdens, they're blessings from God just like any other kids are, they just have parents who have serious issues and need help. Its unfortunet that kids have to be born into that type mess but what can they do, they are the innocent bystanders in all this. The females bare much responsibility to. If a guy can go to jail for having to many kids and get a good uproar, why can't a female? Females have wanted equal rights, now they do. What's the difference. They should treat guys the same way they treat females. The mothers weren't raped, they consented to sex just like he did, they aren't innocent. And they didn't tell him he couldn't have sex, they told him not to have any more kids unless he proves that he can take care of the ones he has and any future ones.
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  Bizarre news story

  by BoozeRunner in

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  heres a bizarre story....tell me what you think!.

  court shouldn't regulate one's right to have sex .

  by kathleen parker .

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  To Claudia,

  I understand your statement. No he should not have anymore kids, as I stated. Would you prefer the courts give him years in jail where we the tax payers are taking care of him and making sure he has 3 square meals a day, cable tv, enough exercise, and if his kids are on the system, we the tax payers are taking care of them. Or would you prefer that the courts order him to get a decent paying job and pay his money and take care of his own kids? Would you speak differently if they were talking about a female? If a female kept having kids by different guys and leaving after a while and leaves the kids with their daddies and keeps having baby after baby. And she owed thousands of dollars for her kids.
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  Bizarre news story

  by BoozeRunner in

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  heres a bizarre story....tell me what you think!.

  court shouldn't regulate one's right to have sex .

  by kathleen parker .

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  The courts ruling is that he stops making kids if he can't afford them. Thats the key word,"if". He can afford them he just choses not to. I'm sure that the 4 mothers involved knew that before their kid or kids came, that there were others before. There's to much birth control out there to be an ooopppsss!!! If you put him in jail, he won't be able to pay, our tax dollars will be taking care of him. The courts should've ordered him to find a job with in a certain amount of time and then whatever he's making, see what each parent gets and he has enough to pay his bills with. Jail isn't the answer. Yes it is a crime to not take care of your kids, its called abandonement. If you make them, you should take care of them, on your own, not forced. If the guy or the female don't want to use any bc, don't have sex. We know that people are going to have sex anyways and say, we'll deal with it when it happens. Bull. To all the deadbeat moms and dads in jail because you didn't pay a certain amount of money, the courts should order you to get a job and pay what you owe. Now, the courts ordering him not to have any more kids is just like ordering a female to or not to have an abortion. Whats the difference, its dealing with one's reproductive organs and their right to reproduce? Do you get where I'm going with this? Females fought like crazy for the
  ROEvsWADE so that they could be in control of their own bodies, and kill their babies when they felt like it. They didn't and still don't need the alleged father's permission or signiture to kill their kid so if ROEvsWADE is there for females, what's going to be there for the guys. Is there going to be a ROEvsWADE 11 or is it going to be
  WADEvsROE, the other way around?
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  Adoption by Jehovah's Witnesses is blocked

  by expatbrit in

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  adoption by jehovah's witnesses is blocked .

  the independent - united kingdom; may 26, 2001. by brian farmer.

  a couple originally approved by a council as adoptive parents have been refused permission by social workers to adopt a child, because they are jehovah's witnesses.

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  To Ianano,

  You could say that. I've never experienced any shunning from my mother or any the our JW friends or assiciates just because I chose not to be one. The JW's that I've encountered in the past are nice, sweet people. Where do you all come from or live at where you were shunned just because you didn't want to study or come to the hall?

  To Nelly 136,

  I am sorry that you or anyone else on thses boards were shunned and got treated to bad. I all my years of knowing JW's, I've never been treated like an outcast or with disrespect.
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  Adoption by Jehovah's Witnesses is blocked

  by expatbrit in

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  2. friends

  adoption by jehovah's witnesses is blocked .

  the independent - united kingdom; may 26, 2001. by brian farmer.

  a couple originally approved by a council as adoptive parents have been refused permission by social workers to adopt a child, because they are jehovah's witnesses.

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  To Agape,

  First off, JW aren't a cult. Next, as I got older, I started getting into other things. I chose to venture out and try new things. I knew there were things I wanted to try that they wouldn't appove of. Don't get me wrong, I'm not into drugs or anything like that, I mean drinking, I've tried a few concoctions, I wasn't ready to be in a religion that was so serious and whose standards were and are high. I knew that most likely I wouldn't wait til I was married to have sex and I didn't. My husband and I have been together for years and I knew what I wasn't ready for. Our oldest kid is 6 and we just got married last year. I can defend them the way I do because I don't personally know any JW's that have shunned their kids and family just because they didn't want to be a JW or study. Where are you from? Any Witnesses that I do know who's kids or families didn't want to study or be W's weren't shunned at all. They still help their families out. I've never led any one on to believe I was a JW, I stated a few responses back that I wasn't one. I kept saying that my mother was one, I never said I was. In between switching halls through the years while growing up and meeting new JW's, I've met 100's of W's and none of them are like the W's you've described.