To WhyNow2000,
Thankyou,I do so strongly think that cs should be accounted for, an account should be opened for the kids.
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court shouldn't regulate one's right to have sex .
by kathleen parker .
To WhyNow2000,
Thankyou,I do so strongly think that cs should be accounted for, an account should be opened for the kids.
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court shouldn't regulate one's right to have sex .
by kathleen parker .
To all,
I do agree with BigBoi that it doesn't take $900 a month to raise a child but then you have to go by where you live. The cost of living is higher in some places than others. Extra activities are just that, extra. If you want your kid to have lessons in piano, if they want to ski, take swim, go hiking, take gymnastics, what ever's that goig to be extra money, be able to afford it. If the cp wasn't able to afford it before and because they took the ncp back to court and now their getting $40,000 instead of $9,000, fine. But with that extra money, is all that the cp spends in regards to the kid? Thats the question. Theres nothing wrong with using, lets say the first $2000 goes towards bills, rent or mortgage, electric, gas, phone, cable, medical(if you have to pay monthly and you'll aren't getting medicaid), doctors appt's. Lets say after you've gone clothes shopping and you've gotten what they need. What do you do with the other almost $30,000, did you get your kid a savings account where what ever's left goes there towards future college and their future care expenses? Is any of your kids money going towards you getting a new pair of shoes or sneakers, you going to the hairdresser, you going clothes shopping for yourself, you spending your kids money on your other family, your friends or your boy/girlfriends, wife/husband?
I think that's what most people are getting at. The ncp knows that all of the $$$$$$$$$ that they send is not all going on the kids, that's the point. And I feel you. The $$$$$$$ is supposed to be used in the caregivers or cp's discretion, but come on now. Get realisic, name me some cp's who don't use any of their kids $$$$$$$$ on themselves or others, things that don't have anything to do with them?
And I'll call them a liar. I have 3 as I've stated before and it doesn't take me $900 a month to care for them. Our expenses haven't changed from before we were married. Whether your married or not and you break up, things are going to change anyways. There will be 2 house holds to pay for, 2 sets of bills. Larc pointed out about if the cp makes $50,000 and the ncp makes over $200,000, then 17% of ncp's income would be $34,000 and that's what the cs would be. What if its the other way around and the cp is making $200,000 and the ncp's making only $50,000, that means the ncp would be paying $8500 a month, then what. People always assume that the guy is always making more than the female, its not always true. Where does day care come in for the couple who then decides to split up? How ever they had it before, they'd just continue. But say for instance both mom and dad make the same amount, its rare but it can happen. Lets say both make $15,000 a year, 17% of the ncp's income is $2550. So one parents income goes up by $2550 and the others goes down by $2550. Except when tax time comes, of course the cp gets the fed., state, eic and and child credit. The ncp only gets the fed,state, and eic for themselves. The cp gets money back for taking care of the kid and spending money on them. What does the ncp get? As I stated before some boards back, I think a law should be passed that depending on what the ncp paid for cs the year before, they should get back half. I bet you then, there would be more child support paid.
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court shouldn't regulate one's right to have sex .
by kathleen parker .
To Justathought,
I'm sure that a 12 year old doesn't eat $400 a month in food, come on. And clothes, no one has to shop for their kids every month. If you buy clothes that fit them to a tee, yes you will be buying clothes every few months. When you buy kids clothes, you buy them at least 2 sizes to big, they can grow in them. Most parents go summer shopping and winter shopping. I have 3 kids, 6, 3 and 1 year. My 6 year old eats every 2-3 hours, small meals. Even so, she doesn't eat that much worth in money a month. Even when I was pregnant, and you know if your pregnant, most females have appetites and cravings. I can understand shelter, medical, school cost, but clothes and food is a little much.
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court shouldn't regulate one's right to have sex .
by kathleen parker .
To Justathought,,
When you made the comment that children are burdens, that sounds so harsh. A child isn't a burden, they are blessings. I bet that if there was a new law to be passed that if you chose not to protect yourself in every way shape for form to not get pregnant,knowing that your not ready and the dad's not ready and abortion of any kind was illegal. If you have someone kill your baby(abortion), you either go to jail for life or you get the electric chair and if you try to give yourself an abortion, you face a life time sentence, I bet you'd have no one getting pregnant unless they were ready. There would be no ooppss!!, it was an accident or I made a mistake.But we know that won't happen.
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court shouldn't regulate one's right to have sex .
by kathleen parker .
To Claudia,
This comment is about what you said to BigBoi, its not always true that if the mother is the cp and she makes more money because she's educated, the father pays less. My husband only has an high school education, his ex has a aa behind her name. The court still made him pay more that what he should've been and his ex was making 2-3 times what he did.
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court shouldn't regulate one's right to have sex .
by kathleen parker .
To Bigboi,
I understand what your saying about females can choice but guys don't have that option. So therefore, if the female wants the baby and the dad doesn't and she has the kid anyways, of course they make daddy dearest pay. And if the female doesn't want the kid and daddy does, give him custody and make her pay, she doesn't have to have anything to do with the kid. Equal rights, right?
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court shouldn't regulate one's right to have sex .
by kathleen parker .
To LDH,
I understand about the ncp coming to court and ready to lie and finding out that they have other income on the side. I'm referring to the ncp's who only have 1 income and who are struggling themselves. Of course if you have a kid or kids out there, take care of them. I believe that the cp should be working regardless to if they are getting cs or not. Not every one has the $$$$$ to send their kid(s) to private school. You got the skies and the instruments, all these material things. These are things that you want for the child, not need. Don't get me wrong, theres nothing wrong with an exta activities, but sometimes people can go over board. And I do understand cs and the court system all to well. My husband has been playing the court room game since 1994. His ex takes him to court when ever she feels he's not doing what she wants and she gets pissed off. Since 1994, her kids cs has changed 3 times. From 1994-1996, it was $100 a month cause she lied in court, my husband, then at the time was my boyfriend, he caught her lie and threatened to expose her and the judge saw through it. She was asking for $75 every 2 weeks, and the judge made it $50 every 2 weeks cause he saw through her lies. That lasted til May of 1996, she took him back and the courts saw that he had made $17,000 for the year of 1995. That was overtime but its not like he made that annually and the judge went off that. The judge never once asked him for his pay stubs, if he would've seen them, he would've saw that he only brings home around $250 every 2 weeks. The judge talked as through that was his income yearly. The ex lied and said her income was only $9000 knowing she had at least 3 incomes at the time, and they weren't the kind of work that you had to leave the house for. They made him pay $82 a week and we were in poverty until 1999. I had a job to but because I was going to college ft, I couldn't work ft, and we had a kid at home to. There were times he'd bring home checks for $80 every 2 weeks. And because he owed her arrears, they took an extra $10 a week, that's almost $370 a month. At that time, he should've only been paying $65 a week. He finally got it lowered in September of 99, he took it to court in Jan of 99, the judge didn't want to lower it. He told the judge, your putting me in poverty, we both know she's lieing about everything, you've asked her no proof of anything. I have no problem with of taking care of her kids but would you prefer for me to pay a reasonable amount that I can afford and I can still pay my bills or would you prefer me to continue paying this high amount, can't pay my bills and then I find a way to leave my job so I don't have to pay? IT finally got lowered to $50 a week, which was what he could afford to pay and be able to live. Every one's circumstances are different. I know of the court system all to well. There was 1 year that her oldest daughter stayed with us for a month and a half, and they were getting their cs. I brought it up to my husband that your paying for this child and she's here with us, does that make sense to you? He took her to court for that month and a half. The courts gave him credit for the month and a half and she had to pay him for that time. She was mad about it. She tried to take him to court to raise the kids money because she was mad that she had to pay for her kid and she felt that she shouldn't have had to pay a dime. I told her, since you have custody, he has to pay. If he had custody, you'd better believe you'd have to also. He knows that all the money he pays doesn't go on the kids. That same year, a few months earlier. Now this was before her money was lowered to $50. She brought a new bed set for a little over $600. She complained 2 weeks later how she was broke and that her electricity was about to be cut off cause she owed $600. Hello. That bed set you brought with your kids money had nothing to do with them, for someone's electric, gas or any bill to get up to $600, it must have been building up for months. Your kids use electricity and the cs you get should be used to pay your bills. But yet and still you can afford to buy a new bed set for your self. Something doesn't add up. That's what most ncp's ( mostly guys) complain about, is that the $$$$ isn't being spent on the kids. The ncp's have no proof of what's going on and its not right.
adoption by jehovah's witnesses is blocked .
the independent - united kingdom; may 26, 2001. by brian farmer.
a couple originally approved by a council as adoptive parents have been refused permission by social workers to adopt a child, because they are jehovah's witnesses.
Don't get me wrong, there are some things I don't agree with as far as birthdays, holidays. I've gotten used to having bday parties and cooking for the holidays. My husband's family got me into it. If it weren't for that, I'd have no problems with being one. I know that their lifestyle is more strict than mine is and I'm just not ready for it yet. Just like Muslims, they have things in their religion that they do and don't do, if your not going to be true to it, don't join.
adoption by jehovah's witnesses is blocked .
the independent - united kingdom; may 26, 2001. by brian farmer.
a couple originally approved by a council as adoptive parents have been refused permission by social workers to adopt a child, because they are jehovah's witnesses.
To Ianao,
To be honest with you, they aren't giving me the time of day just because they want me to become a member. Many of the Witnesses that come to my door, I'll come out and tell them that I'm familiar with their religion. I'll mention my mothers name and the majority of them know her by her nick name and they say ok. I come out and tell them, I'm not interested in studying right now, if and when I become interested, I'll give you a call. And 90% of the JW's come to my door are people that I've known since I was a little girl, like age 6 and 7. They'll just say ok, when they see me at a later date, they don't ignore me or make me feel like they don't want to be bothered.
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court shouldn't regulate one's right to have sex .
by kathleen parker .
To LDH,
Now if the father was grossing over $150,000 a year, and she was getting the same amount that welfare would give a child, that's her fault cause she didn't do her research and get what her kid deserves. Now its fine for her, of course to go back to school and get her education so that she can get a better job with better pay but while she's going to school, does she have any income of her own or is she living off of her kids money? With $20,000 a year, thats a little over $1600 a month, she can live off that. That's an amount that someone would gross before taxes. There's nothing wrong with helping out the custodial parent but make sure the amount is fair, and not out of anger and greedyness.